Winter mercato thread 2016-17 (3 Viewers)
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I hope it's clear by now that in winter we need 2 players for the midfield alone.
We need a physical player, who's able to intimidate opponents in tough matches (Witsel/Matuidi) and we also need a Marchisio replacement so bad. A deep lying playmaker. Someone that can create from deep. It should be painfully clear by now that Lemina can't do that. And that the only half decent player we have for this is Hernanes. And half decent is an overstatement.
We need a physical player, who's able to intimidate opponents in tough matches (Witsel/Matuidi) and we also need a Marchisio replacement so bad. A deep lying playmaker. Someone that can create from deep. It should be painfully clear by now that Lemina can't do that. And that the only half decent player we have for this is Hernanes. And half decent is an overstatement.
We signed Cuadrado and Pjaca in the last window, two wingers, and one is being used at wing back or second striker, the other is being used as second striker. In the 3-5-2. We signed an AM and turned him into a DM. I'm just throwing this out there, follow the bread crumbs...
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I wasn't giving my opinion, just stating facts. We have 5 very good central defenders, 3 players who can play RWB (4 if you include Mattiello), 3 players who can play LWB, two centre forwards, two second strikers, seven (+1) players who can play central midfield. We also have one authentic left winger, one authentic right winger, and one barely passable attacking midfielder. We're set up to play 3-5-2, we buy players for the 3-5-2, and this is built on our defenders, but we are also flexible enough to use back four formations.
I know you think playing a back four suddenly waves a magic wand to making us play better but only having an attacking approach and fielding more attacking players creates more attractive football. The front 7 players we had on the field yesterday is more than enough to play attacking football and have diverse options, but if those players don't have the right approach it fails. Pjanic, Dani Alves and Khedira didn't have good enough games, so the midfield was lost. Dybala also had a very average game.
Considering our injuries there wasn't even going to be a discussion about us playing a different formation last night. Going forward in the CL I'm sure you'll see Allegri make changes if there needs to be.
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I wasn't giving my opinion, just stating facts. We have 5 very good central defenders, 3 players who can play RWB (4 if you include Mattiello), 3 players who can play LWB, two centre forwards, two second strikers, seven (+1) players who can play central midfield. We also have one authentic left winger, one authentic right winger, and one barely passable attacking midfielder. We're set up to play 3-5-2, we buy players for the 3-5-2, and this is built on our defenders, but we are also flexible enough to use back four formations.
I know you think playing a back four suddenly waves a magic wand to making us play better but only having an attacking approach and fielding more attacking players creates more attractive football. The front 7 players we had on the field yesterday is more than enough to play attacking football and have diverse options, but if those players don't have the right approach it fails. Pjanic, Dani Alves and Khedira didn't have good enough games, so the midfield was lost. Dybala also had a very average game.
Considering our injuries there wasn't even going to be a discussion about us playing a different formation last night. Going forward in the CL I'm sure you'll see Allegri make changes if there needs to be.
It's confirmed: we're paying 7.5M for 50% Bentancour.
We really did get fucked in the Tevez deal.. that's a very hefty price for a player who has potential, but also a lot of hype and is far from settling in Boca's team.
Actually, Boca's supporters hate the guy. They feel he plays with no grinta, is soft, kind of ghosty, and also misses a lot of passes. They are absolutely loving this deal. As I loved when Gerson was sold for 16M, it's to this date the best business I've ever seen Fluminense make.
I have my doubts about this deal, as I'm sure the guy did nothing to justify this price. I see some resemblance to Gerson's case, where he was built on hype.
But it's good to see we are gambling on talent and youth anyway. Just hope it works.
We really did get fucked in the Tevez deal.. that's a very hefty price for a player who has potential, but also a lot of hype and is far from settling in Boca's team.
Actually, Boca's supporters hate the guy. They feel he plays with no grinta, is soft, kind of ghosty, and also misses a lot of passes. They are absolutely loving this deal. As I loved when Gerson was sold for 16M, it's to this date the best business I've ever seen Fluminense make.
I have my doubts about this deal, as I'm sure the guy did nothing to justify this price. I see some resemblance to Gerson's case, where he was built on hype.
But it's good to see we are gambling on talent and youth anyway. Just hope it works.
352 must be an option, nothing more. Its great that the majority of our players understand the formation and we can easily switch to it. But there is no normal reason to keep 12+ defenders on the team. We need inverted wingers (we are getting there, but too slow) very badly indeed.
The midfield is another blast - while we are built for 352, we lost our 2 best players for the formation in two summers. Now we have another dozen of players in midfield and no clue as to what their best positions would be, neither their best formation and subsequently we have no clear idea for our market priorities. Matiudi, Witsel, Bentacour ... that just shows how far we are out there in the blue.
This is I think one of the major differences between Beppe and Moggi. Even without the full backing of Exor, Moggi was the master of spending a lot to get the player we thought we need. All people make mistakes and Marotta has a fantastic record so far, but he needs to change the dynamics of his trades along with the growth of ambition in this club. We went lucky for some time, but the Chinese are here and eventually they will find the right people to use all that money.
The midfield is another blast - while we are built for 352, we lost our 2 best players for the formation in two summers. Now we have another dozen of players in midfield and no clue as to what their best positions would be, neither their best formation and subsequently we have no clear idea for our market priorities. Matiudi, Witsel, Bentacour ... that just shows how far we are out there in the blue.
This is I think one of the major differences between Beppe and Moggi. Even without the full backing of Exor, Moggi was the master of spending a lot to get the player we thought we need. All people make mistakes and Marotta has a fantastic record so far, but he needs to change the dynamics of his trades along with the growth of ambition in this club. We went lucky for some time, but the Chinese are here and eventually they will find the right people to use all that money.
well, that's what I thought too, and that would be more reasonable. But that's Angelici, president of Boca, that has been saying this value for a while, and now he confirmed that Juve has contacted him and that they will make the buy. He said he's going to Torino the next few days to work it, and that the price is 7.5M for 50%.
So, I made up that Bonucci wanted to leave in the summer....
http://www.gazzetta.it/Calciomercato/19-10-2016/juventus-city-bonucci-guardiola-170500853192.shtml
http://www.gazzetta.it/Calciomercato/19-10-2016/juventus-city-bonucci-guardiola-170500853192.shtml
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