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baggio

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Jun 3, 2003
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We signed 21 year old Dybala for 40M, a player in demand all over. World class within a couple of months of being here.

We signed Higuain for 90M. World class player. Top 5 in his position in the world.

We signed a CM in Pjanic for 32M. World class mid, only not regarded as such perhaps because of low opinion of Serie A.

We signed a LB in Alex Sandro for 26M. Last year of contract. Over interest from EPL clubs like Man City. On the cusp of being World Class.
Dybala well on his way to being WC, not there yet. Higuain is WC. Pjanic is not world class for my money. He's a top mid. Not WC. Modric is WC. Kroos is WC. Sandro thiugh is probably going to get there sooner than zPjanic. He's probably a season away from WC. Pjanic is just a rung below, though he keeps the mid among the better ones in Europe.
 

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DAiDEViL

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What can Kroos do that Pjanic can't besides giving a arrogant interview?

what a great transfer Pjanic was, thanks @Roma for the low release clause.
 

Orgut

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Dec 31, 2002
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Pjanic currently is better than Kroos
Kroos is a more complete player and if you take his overall he is surely better than Pjanic, with that in mind Pjanic is definitely a more creative player and will probably has more assists to his name...
I personally think comparing them is wrong since they arent the same type of player! Pogba and Kroos are comparable Pjanic is more comparable to Verratti in his style of play but he could also be compared to a more attacking creative players.

If I could choose one between Kroos and Pjanic for Juve I`d choose Pjanic as he suits us better.
If I have to do the same on behalf of Real`s interest I`d pick Kroos as he suits them better...
Its a matter of what you need...

Too bad we sold Pogba as Pogba shits on Kroos as far as Im concerned. Pogba is a truly special player!
 

zizinho

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Apr 14, 2013
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Kroos is a more complete player and if you take his overall he is surely better than Pjanic, with that in mind Pjanic is definitely a more creative player and will probably has more assists to his name...
I personally think comparing them is wrong since they arent the same type of player! Pogba and Kroos are comparable Pjanic is more comparable to Verratti in his style of play but he could also be compared to a more attacking creative players.

If I could choose one between Kroos and Pjanic for Juve I`d choose Pjanic as he suits us better.
If I have to do the same on behalf of Real`s interest I`d pick Kroos as he suits them better...
Its a matter of what you need...

Too bad we sold Pogba as Pogba shits on Kroos as far as Im concerned. Pogba is a truly special player!
why is Kroos more complete?
 

DAiDEViL

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Feb 21, 2015
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Kroos is a more complete player and if you take his overall he is surely better than Pjanic, with that in mind Pjanic is definitely a more creative player and will probably has more assists to his name...
I personally think comparing them is wrong since they arent the same type of player! Pogba and Kroos are comparable Pjanic is more comparable to Verratti in his style of play but he could also be compared to a more attacking creative players.

If I could choose one between Kroos and Pjanic for Juve I`d choose Pjanic as he suits us better.
If I have to do the same on behalf of Real`s interest I`d pick Kroos as he suits them better...
Its a matter of what you need...

Too bad we sold Pogba as Pogba shits on Kroos as far as Im concerned. Pogba is a truly special player!
what?

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why is Kroos more complete?
plays for Real Madrid.
 

italiacalcio10

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Mar 3, 2014
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Kroos is a more complete player and if you take his overall he is surely better than Pjanic, with that in mind Pjanic is definitely a more creative player and will probably has more assists to his name...
I personally think comparing them is wrong since they arent the same type of player! Pogba and Kroos are comparable Pjanic is more comparable to Verratti in his style of play but he could also be compared to a more attacking creative players.

If I could choose one between Kroos and Pjanic for Juve I`d choose Pjanic as he suits us better.
If I have to do the same on behalf of Real`s interest I`d pick Kroos as he suits them better...
Its a matter of what you need...

Too bad we sold Pogba as Pogba $#@!s on Kroos as far as Im concerned. Pogba is a truly special player!
I don't think you can compare Pogba and Kroos - they are very different. If anything Verratti & Kroos are comparable, while Pogba and Pjanic are, in the sense that they play similar positions. Sure, all 4 players are very different, but Pogba and Pjanic frequently venture into the box and take shots. Kroos seldom does, like Verratti. This is a good comparison from Squawka.

http://www.squawka.com/comparison-m...duels_won_%/defensive_errors/interceptions#90

For some reason Pjanic doesn't autopopulate, but you can correct it by just setting it to the correct season & championship.
 

Sjaban

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Dec 29, 2012
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What can Kroos do that Pjanic can't besides giving a arrogant interview?

what a great transfer Pjanic was, thanks @Roma for the low release clause.
Only thing I can think of is long shots, but Pjanic has show to be equally capable, Kroos does get more space to shoot though in La Liga
 

AndreaCristiano

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Jun 9, 2011
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I agree with all being said but its really annoying that in the end we are just a jumping board to Barcelona and Real (mainly)

Vidal wanted "a step up in his career" - went to Bayern
Pogba had interest from Real and Barcelona and it was always just a matter of time until he`ll go there - went to Man Utd (not the most popular decision)
Dybala is being monitored by Barca and it is being said we have promised him to Barca..
Why do we need to "promise our players" - We are Juventus not a second rate club - We should be able to keep our stars!
Think of this scenario Vidal and Pogba remain and we have a mid of Vidal Pogba and Pjanic - Would you even have a doubt on which team have the best mid?!
Its really annoying as it feels Palermo are to Juve what Juve are to Barca and Real and this is not acceptable for me - I guess some of you feel the same way...
We haven't promised dybala to anyone
 

Fr3sh

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Jul 12, 2011
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World class is subjective, so there isn't really any way to objectively say what it is. It's all just a matter of opinion really, outside of a few players. It shouldn't exclusively be for best player in the world types like Messi and Ronaldo or even best player in his position of all time types like Buffon. But it also doesn't have to be a fixed number for each position, which would hugely underrate players at some positions and overrate players at other positions. It's also much harder to decide what makes a world class fullback or CB, or defensive mid as opposed to world class attacking players, where statistics are of much greater aid.

Pjanic and Dybala are WC for me. Well, let me qualify that. They were both world class last season. First season as such for each. SO I suppose, to truly cement themselves there, they just need to show they can play at that level year in and year out. Alex Sandro is a little further away, on the cusp of being world class, but still needs to have that consistent top level season.
Very well said.

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What can Kroos do that Pjanic can't besides giving a arrogant interview?

what a great transfer Pjanic was, thanks @Roma for the low release clause.
Kroos is more handsome

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Here's a question we can all agree with. Is Marchisio world class? I don't think so.
 
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