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Badass J Elkann

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Ousmane Dembélé has been offered to FC Bayern by agents. Hasan Salihamidžić and the club's bosses are rather skeptical and have doubts over Dembélé's character. Juventus are currently in advanced talks with the Frenchman [Bild]
This is precisely why our current management are dumb as fuck

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Erling Haaland was spending his vacation in Marbella, Spain and answered fans who were asking him about his future: "I'll play here, in Spain"

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I think it's no secret he obviously wants to play in Spain
 

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Try again at what? I showed you the highest scoring team that uses midfielders as strikers. And you tell me it's impossible to score goals without a big useless fuck in the box. Despite literally evidence to the contrary right in plain view.

Now you're gonna tell me Diogo Jota is a real 9 too or something. :howler:
Who said it’s impossible? Stop making shit up. I said Dybala hasn’t shown anything as a 9 to suggest that we would start being a free scoring team with him there and keeping this current midfield mess lol. Zilch. He’s spent 2 of the past 3 years being one of the most useless players in the squad. And had his best seasons here, and coincidentally the team’s best seasons when he was paired with a traditional number 9 up front. So ya know. Maybe that works well for him… based on the actual evidence in plain view from his career thus far.
 

Nenz

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Lo Celso swap for Kulusevski? Shows how little I know about any other league. Never even heard of the guy. Apparently he had a very good year under Mourinho. Ndoumbele has impressed me the few times I watched him. To be honest, who hasn't been playing poorly at Tottehnham recently, bar Song?

We should bite the bullet with Kulusevksi. He doesn't produce a hell of a lot of anything for us. His natural position is supposedly right wing. Cuadrado challenges markers from that position 100x more that Kulusevski ever has for Juve. Everyone knows he wants to get onto his left foot to try to whip in a goal. Ball routinely gets caught under his feat. Very few goals, very few assists, doesn't 'make the team play well'. Like Bernadeschi, we overpaid for him. I think it's time to cash in before he loses more value.

Opinions on Lo Celso? Particularly as a choice between him and Ndoumbele...
 

alaska

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Lo Celso swap for Kulusevski? Shows how little I know about any other league. Never even heard of the guy. Apparently he had a very good year under Mourinho. Ndoumbele has impressed me the few times I watched him. To be honest, who hasn't been playing poorly at Tottehnham recently, bar Song?

We should bite the bullet with Kulusevksi. He doesn't produce a hell of a lot of anything for us. His natural position is supposedly right wing. Cuadrado challenges markers from that position 100x more that Kulusevski ever has for Juve. Everyone knows he wants to get onto his left foot to try to whip in a goal. Ball routinely gets caught under his feat. Very few goals, very few assists, doesn't 'make the team play well'. Like Bernadeschi, we overpaid for him. I think it's time to cash in before he loses more value.

Opinions on Lo Celso? Particularly as a choice between him and Ndoumbele...
Don't know Lo Celso but I don't want to give up on Kulu yet. He's 21 and Lo Celso is 25, and Kulu still can develop into something.
 

Nenz

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Don't know Lo Celso but I don't want to give up on Kulu yet. He's 21 and Lo Celso is 25, and Kulu still can develop into something.
He's giving off very big Bernardeshi/Pjaca vibes to me. I don't know if we have too much time to wait or risk waiting for that matter. We have two mildly competent strikers. We have Dybala and Chiesa. Kulusevksi is a complete surplus to Juve's immediate requirements. Our midfield is 3rd rate. I haven't seen a Juve midfield this static, uncreative and basically incompetent (that finally adjective is Rabiot in a nutshell - some of the easiest passes made on certain counter attacks he's botched lately).

We need to inject a lot of dynamism back into our midfield. Proactive players who at least do the basics well. McKennie fits into that mould occasionally. Then we need someone who can shake of a few opponents, create space, make a decent pass forward that is longer than 30 yards.

So Lo Celso is a play making mid. Has a reputation as a having lots of potential. Good debut Premiership season under Mourinho. Injury plagued last year.
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alaska

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He's giving off very big Bernardeshi/Pjaca vibes to me. I don't know if we have too much time to wait or risk waiting for that matter. We have two mildly competent strikers. We have Dybala and Chiesa. Kulusevksi is a complete surplus to Juve's immediate requirements. Our midfield is 3rd rate. I haven't seen a Juve midfield this static, uncreative and basically incompetent (that finally adjective is Rabiot in a nutshell - some of the easiest passes made on certain counter attacks he's botched lately).

We need to inject a lot of dynamism back into our midfield. Proactive players who at least do the basics well. McKennie fits into that mould occasionally. Then we need someone who can shake of a few opponents, create space, make a decent pass forward that is longer than 30 yards.

So Lo Celso is a play making mid. Has a reputation as a having lots of potential. Good debut Premiership season under Mourinho. Injury plagued last year.
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Watched the vid, he looks like a taller Arthur. And I rate Arthur's abilities higher than most here probably do. Still, would not exchange Dejan for this profile of player, we can find them via our own scouting network.
 

Valerio.

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If we plan to turn around this team (financially and sporting results) we should

OUT:
Szczesny his wages 6.5m+2.5m/year are way too much for what he is offering. Even sold for 0 or low fee could be nice
Alex Sandro a ghost of himself since 2-3years and getting 6m/year. Wish for 15m
Ramsey a useless leech on 7-8m wages. Waste of resources on a always injured player. Likely sold for 0 or -5m
Rabiot his wages are not justified. Mediocre player that should earn max 3-3.5m/year and not 7+. 10-15m fee if possible. He is still 26yrs old
Bernardeschi End of contract hope we don't renew him and I'd be ok renewing him only if he accept a max 2.5m/year deal
Arthur loaned till we can get rid of him
Kulusesvky if a decent offer comes we should sell. He doesn't have the mentality to shine in a big team. 35m pls
Morata end of loan.
Dybala end of contract.


IN:
Audero (he is a youth product) 5-10m or let's keep Perin and save up.
a sub defender for cheap that can accept being a sub. Giving that De Ligt and Bonucci should be the starters with Rugani as sub. Someone like Acerbi...
Brozovic 0 (paid with Ramsey wages)
Kessie 0 (paid with Szczesny wages)
Freuler 0
Milinkovic-Savic 55m
Vlahovic 65m
Insigne 0 (paid wages by Rabiot leaving)

I can only dream

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we'd have as subs:

Pinsoglio
Pellegrini
Rugani
Chiellini (if he doesn't retire)
Acerbi
Locatelli
Freuler
Bentancur
Kean
Bernardeschi
 
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Nenz

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Watched the vid, he looks like a taller Arthur. And I rate Arthur's abilities higher than most here probably do. Still, would not exchange Dejan for this profile of player, we can find them via our own scouting network.
Tottenham fans were raving about him when Mourinho was there. Looks like he knows how pass the ball.
 

Akshen

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We need strong characters, lo Celso or ndombele might be skilled players but they lack character, just like Arthur or Rabiot.

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Also please get Hugo Lloris for a gk spot.
Strange that Bild is reporting that we are interested in Dembele, they reliable but it doesn't make sense.
 
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zizinho

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All these players can sign with any club in a few hours.

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Kramaric :tuttosport:

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Tottenham of Paratici proposed to Juventus an exchange between Dejan Kulusevksi and Giovanni Lo Celso.Giovanni has been considered not a part of Conte plans due to his attitude and injury issues.(Gazzetta)
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Albertmare

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Tottenham of Paratici proposed to Juventus an exchange between Dejan Kulusevksi and Giovanni Lo Celso.Giovanni has been considered not a part of Conte plans due to his attitude and injury issues.(Gazzetta)
i actually rate Lo Celso but didnt know about his injury issues , if so f kck off Tici for offering us another injury prone player , id rather keep Kulu then , at least he is available most of time
 
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