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Robee

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Jun 21, 2011
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why would it be good though? we pay 15 mill for zaza to just sit on our bench, whilst we loan out someone who is fast and relatively creative something we lack, knowing Juve we'll come to some sort of agreement where by we loan Coman out but in order for him to return to Juve we have to pay 20 mill or some ridiculous sum of money. If the management/coach actually realised that the answer to their tactical issues with the current system when it comes to attacking is right in front of their face! I see no reason why Coman cannot play in a trequartista role, he certainly looks more the part than pereyra
Do you need someone to explain the loan system and its differences with the co-ownership to you ?
 

Robee

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we are the kings of wasting money bringing back our own players we are bound to accept to offer cash in exchange to say thanks. Never mind we got that "Load of cash" from the gabbiadini deal so that shouldn't be a problem
Well, we did. And it will pay for Sturaro, look at that... I'd even like to have the remainder of that cash on my bank account. Probably have to work an entire career for the remainder of it...
 

Pirlo's Beard

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why would it be good though? we pay 15 mill for zaza to just sit on our bench, whilst we loan out someone who is fast and relatively creative something we lack, knowing Juve we'll come to some sort of agreement where by we loan Coman out but in order for him to return to Juve we have to pay 20 mill or some ridiculous sum of money. If the management/coach actually realised that the answer to their tactical issues with the current system when it comes to attacking is right in front of their face! I see no reason why Coman cannot play in a trequartista role, he certainly looks more the part than pereyra
FYI co-ownerships will be completely eradicated soon, so there's no scenario in which we send Coman away and end up paying money to get him back unless we do a United and let him piss off then realise he's actually good.
 

Badass J Elkann

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So by posting this, you mean you do understand that "a load of cash" is a subjective term ??? Wow.

As I've explained a billion times we barely made a profit on the gabbiadini deal, so your interpretation for "Load of cash" from the deal is very different to that on a bigger scale when it comes to club finances, it's like you investing something for 5 euros and only getting 6 euros back and calling it a massive profit when it isn't

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FYI co-ownerships will be completely eradicated soon, so there's no scenario in which we send Coman away and end up paying money to get him back unless we do a United and let him piss off then realise he's actually good.
Loan with option to buy for 2 mill which they exercise with option for Juve to buy him back for 20 mill within 2 years in that case then which is effectively the manner we operate in
 

Robee

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As I've explained a billion times we barely made a profit on the gabbiadini deal, so your interpretation for "Load of cash" from the deal is very different to that on a bigger scale when it comes to club finances, it's like you investing something for 5 euros and only getting 6 euros back and calling it a massive profit
And I explained a thousand times I was not talking about profit, so it has jack shit to do with it. I was talking about the cash injection of this winter. Which will give us the money to invest in Sturaro now. And yes, we made a profit with the Gabbiadini deals. So all in all, we still won.

Zaza on the other hand is a massive talent. He will probably be the leading striker for the azzurri for years to come. That while people were complaining about letting Immobile go for a valued worth of 20 mil, while we have an option for 15 mil on Zaza (with rightly mentioned 4,5 already invested). Getting Zaza, allows us to bring down the age combined with selling Llorente and developing 2 talents upfront. Not a downgrade if you ask me. If it's a big upgrade, well that we'll see.
 

frzl

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Apr 15, 2006
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Zaza on the other hand is a massive talent. He will probably be the leading striker for the azzurri for years to come. That while people were complaining about letting Immobile go for a valued worth of 20 mil, while we have an option for 15 mil on Zaza (with rightly mentioned 4,5 already invested). Getting Zaza, allows us to bring down the age combined with selling Llorente and developing 2 talents upfront. Not a downgrade if you ask me. If it's a big upgrade, well that we'll see.
i wouldn´t call him a "massive talent" but i really like him. he will do well here and easily justify what we pay for him.
btw: we bought him for 3.5m, sold his first half to sassuolo for 2.5, the second for 7.5 and now we will probably buy him back for 15m. that´s a net investment of only 8.5m :)
 

Roman

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Apr 19, 2003
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why would it be good though? we pay 15 mill for zaza to just sit on our bench, whilst we loan out someone who is fast and relatively creative something we lack, knowing Juve we'll come to some sort of agreement where by we loan Coman out but in order for him to return to Juve we have to pay 20 mill or some ridiculous sum of money. If the management/coach actually realised that the answer to their tactical issues with the current system when it comes to attacking is right in front of their face! I see no reason why Coman cannot play in a trequartista role, he certainly looks more the part than pereyra
I'm against Zaza coming to hit the bench anyway.
But i'm sure Juve won't let go of Coman 100%.
the maximum anyone will get is just a simle loan.nothing more.

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i wouldn´t call him a "massive talent" but i really like him. he will do well here and easily justify what we pay for him.
btw: we bought him for 3.5m, sold his first half to sassuolo for 2.5, the second for 7.5 and now we will probably buy him back for 15m. that´s a net investment of only 8.5m :)
Yeah,that's nice actually :agree:
 

Badass J Elkann

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Feb 12, 2006
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And I explained a thousand times I was not talking about profit, so it has jack shit to do with it. I was talking about the cash injection of this winter. Which will give us the money to invest in Sturaro now. And yes, we made a profit with the Gabbiadini deals. So all in all, we still won.

Zaza on the other hand is a massive talent. He will probably be the leading striker for the azzurri for years to come. That while people were complaining about letting Immobile go for a valued worth of 20 mil, while we have an option for 15 mil on Zaza (with rightly mentioned 4,5 already invested). Getting Zaza, allows us to bring down the age combined with selling Llorente and developing 2 talents upfront. Not a downgrade if you ask me. If it's a big upgrade, well that we'll see.
He's not, he is no more talented than Matri when we first signed him. I wouldn't even say that he's better than Llorente
 

Robee

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Jun 21, 2011
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He's not, he is no more talented than Matri when we first signed him. I wouldn't even say that he's better than Llorente
That is debateable, but we're not changing each other opinions on that. What should not be debated however is that Llorente is much, much better than Matri.
 

Badass J Elkann

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Feb 12, 2006
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That is debateable, but we're not changing each other opinions on that. What should not be debated however is that Llorente is much, much better than Matri.
I hate to say this but if the national side are relying on immobile and zaza to lead their front line in the near future it really goes to show how the quality level of Italian 'talent' has dipped
 

Robee

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Jun 21, 2011
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I hate to say this but if the national side are relying on immobile and zaza to lead their front line in the near future it really goes to show how the quality level of Italian 'talent' has dipped
Let the future show us what Zaza really has coming. Unlike Immobile he is a big game player, never afraid to go his own way and scoring against the big boys even for minnows like Sassuolo.

Time for some youtube :tuttosport:

 

Badass J Elkann

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Feb 12, 2006
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Let the future show us what Zaza really has coming. Unlike Immobile he is a big game player, never afraid to go his own way and scoring against the big boys even for minnows like Sassuolo.

Time for some youtube :tuttosport:

some of the defending and defensive howlers in that video is comical

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The only real quality player that Italia has produced in recent times is Verratti and that's it.
yup i agree. I wouldn't even put de sciglio in the 'quality' bracket either, another overrated player but because he can play full back he is praised like the next maldini
 

Robee

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Yet, Verratti ain't even a set starter for the azzurr, which is obviously insane. Talent enough 'though. Gabbiadini, Zaza, Darmian, Berardi, De Sciglio, Verratti, Perin, Rugani,... Recent results have been bad, but Italy will rise.
 
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