FC Barcelona send both, Alves and Alba, because Busquets plays as libero to form a 3 center-back with Pique and Masche when they start building their game.
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But they don't move the ball particularly quickly from sid to side, nor do they threaten to score from crosses, so there is no need to mark both full-backs and both 'wingers' at the same time.
You simply block up the middle of the pitch to stop Barca moving the ball quickly and shuffle your whole team back and fore across the pitch as required.
Go and watch some of the games where Allegri was playing 4-3-1-2 with Milan in the CL to see how it is done.
You simply block up the middle of the pitch to stop Barca moving the ball quickly and shuffle your whole team back and fore across the pitch as required.
Go and watch some of the games where Allegri was playing 4-3-1-2 with Milan in the CL to see how it is done.
It's a very interesting analysis, I really enjoyed reading it. The thing is that when you ask a central midfielder to cover the side everytime the fullbacks go forward not only the CM will get burned after some of those runs. Plus the AM oftenly play a free role without any defensive responsabilities so asking him to drop back everytime the CM covers the SB will get you with 2 players (CM and AM) burned out after just the first half of the game. Imagine recovering the ball and having Mata next to Pirlo, Vidal and Asamoah on the sides and 20 meters away from the strikers without any player to link them.
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Go and watch all the long passes Iniesta sends to Alves where appears free as a winger cuz all the team is marking the other side.
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Go and watch all the long passes Iniesta sends to Alves where appears free as a winger cuz all the team is marking the other side.
You think Vidal would be exhausted by half time if Juve asked him to cover an opposition fullback?
The days of the trequartista being allowed to be a pure luxury player are long gone. They are all expected now to make a defensive contribution.
And why do you think dropping a bit deeper into midfield to fill a a space would be particularly tiring? I'm not suggesting you are going to ask a trequartista to go into midfield and play like Gattuso.
And when the trequartista drops deep, one of the strikers drops a little deeper to avoid the team getting stretched and and to avoid the gap between midfield and attack becoming too big.
Your attacking shape and your defending shape don't need to be the same. You could easily be a 4-3-1-2 team when attacking and then drop back into something that looks much more like 4-4-1-1 when defending.
Are you against 4-3-1-2 because you believe it involves having three players in the team who should do no defensive work? Because I believe that is a flawed viewpoint for a number of reasons.
But it doesn't matter because Alves doesn't then cross it because Barca have no-one to score from a cross.
All they are trying to do is stretch the game out enough to try and penetrate the middle, so the teams who have done well against Barca are the ones who refuse to give up the middle of the pitch.
The days of the trequartista being allowed to be a pure luxury player are long gone. They are all expected now to make a defensive contribution.
And why do you think dropping a bit deeper into midfield to fill a a space would be particularly tiring? I'm not suggesting you are going to ask a trequartista to go into midfield and play like Gattuso.
And when the trequartista drops deep, one of the strikers drops a little deeper to avoid the team getting stretched and and to avoid the gap between midfield and attack becoming too big.
Your attacking shape and your defending shape don't need to be the same. You could easily be a 4-3-1-2 team when attacking and then drop back into something that looks much more like 4-4-1-1 when defending.
Are you against 4-3-1-2 because you believe it involves having three players in the team who should do no defensive work? Because I believe that is a flawed viewpoint for a number of reasons.
But it doesn't matter because Alves doesn't then cross it because Barca have no-one to score from a cross.
All they are trying to do is stretch the game out enough to try and penetrate the middle, so the teams who have done well against Barca are the ones who refuse to give up the middle of the pitch.
It would force Vidal and Pogba to stay much deeper to balance the team cause both Pirlo and Mata offer 0 defensive value +Mata is lazy.
Playing 4 offensive players ONLY works when 2 players are designated holding players to balance the team.
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Considering Pogba and Vidal cant add much in offense in that formation, its pathetically easy to counter.
Playing 4 offensive players ONLY works when 2 players are designated holding players to balance the team.
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Considering Pogba and Vidal cant add much in offense in that formation, its pathetically easy to counter.
You really do, because if the opponent deploy a 4231 with a cam thats not a lazy fuck like Mata, they easely destroy that.
Good luck playing double wings, when having only fullbacks and cm's who'll have to stop that.
However, replace pirlo with Marchisio and the othet two CM's can aggressively press forward, create a numerical advantage in the center, and help the fullbacks when neccecary.
4312 only works like that.
Good luck playing double wings, when having only fullbacks and cm's who'll have to stop that.
However, replace pirlo with Marchisio and the othet two CM's can aggressively press forward, create a numerical advantage in the center, and help the fullbacks when neccecary.
4312 only works like that.
The central defenders have to be great, too.
Because the fullbacks have to dominate the whole flank, they are not able to spend as much time covering narrow, close to the centre-halves.
Add in it being Pirlo playing in front of the defence, and you'd better have some centre-halves who are great at defending one-on-one in open spaces.
It's exactly why I don't like the 4-3-1-2 system. Like every system, it can work very well if you have the players for it. However, I see 4-3-1-2 as requiring really outstanding players in pretty much every position to make it work to a good standard.
You might be able to get away with an okay player somewhere provided he is perfectly suited to the role, but the margin for error seems to me to be very small compared to many other systems.
Because the fullbacks have to dominate the whole flank, they are not able to spend as much time covering narrow, close to the centre-halves.
Add in it being Pirlo playing in front of the defence, and you'd better have some centre-halves who are great at defending one-on-one in open spaces.
It's exactly why I don't like the 4-3-1-2 system. Like every system, it can work very well if you have the players for it. However, I see 4-3-1-2 as requiring really outstanding players in pretty much every position to make it work to a good standard.
You might be able to get away with an okay player somewhere provided he is perfectly suited to the role, but the margin for error seems to me to be very small compared to many other systems.
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