Forgot Nastasic was at City is he even 4th choice?
Might as well sign him up if we can, unload Ogbonna next Summer.
Might as well sign him up if we can, unload Ogbonna next Summer.
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Guys for next mercato we either need a world class winger or striker and a very good defender.
We don't really need players like Mata or Snejder.
I consider Mata over paid and priced. Never liked it at chelsea and even worse at United. It's not a game-breaking player but has the price of one.
So....
Winger/striker
Good Defender (proven one if possible)
I know Mata's good but we already invested a lot on Pereyra and we even have more CMs who can play there. Also Tevez if we want.
And really.... if i had to pick a AM i'd rather go for Isco,Shaqiri or Gotze.
Now we don't need any more deep in our bench. We need to put all our chips on 1 or 2 players. Possibly holding our key starters.
Regrettably i'd say let sell Pogba for 70m and get Reus,Isco,Cuadrado ahahah know it's impossible but that's my wet dream. With Klopp playing a 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3 xD having Vidal-Pirlo-Marchisio or Vidal and Marchisio and infront Reus-Isco-Cuadrado with Tevez or Morata as strikers or Reus-Tevez-Cuadrado XD
Playing 4 in defence with Lichsteiner-Barzagli-Chielini-Evra/Asamoah
Why for one god damned year dreams can't turn reality Y_Y_Y_Y
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Guys for next mercato we either need a world class winger or striker and a very good defender.
We don't really need players like Mata or Snejder.
I consider Mata over paid and priced. Never liked it at chelsea and even worse at United. It's not a game-breaking player but has the price of one.
So....
Winger/striker
Good Defender (proven one if possible)
I know Mata's good but we already invested a lot on Pereyra and we even have more CMs who can play there. Also Tevez if we want.
And really.... if i had to pick a AM i'd rather go for Isco,Shaqiri or Gotze.
Now we don't need any more deep in our bench. We need to put all our chips on 1 or 2 players. Possibly holding our key starters.
Regrettably i'd say let sell Pogba for 70m and get Reus,Isco,Cuadrado ahahah know it's impossible but that's my wet dream. With Klopp playing a 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3 xD having Vidal-Pirlo-Marchisio or Vidal and Marchisio and infront Reus-Isco-Cuadrado with Tevez or Morata as strikers or Reus-Tevez-Cuadrado XD
Playing 4 in defence with Lichsteiner-Barzagli-Chielini-Evra/Asamoah
Why for one god damned year dreams can't turn reality Y_Y_Y_Y
We don't really need players like Mata or Snejder.
I consider Mata over paid and priced. Never liked it at chelsea and even worse at United. It's not a game-breaking player but has the price of one.
So....
Winger/striker
Good Defender (proven one if possible)
I know Mata's good but we already invested a lot on Pereyra and we even have more CMs who can play there. Also Tevez if we want.
And really.... if i had to pick a AM i'd rather go for Isco,Shaqiri or Gotze.
Now we don't need any more deep in our bench. We need to put all our chips on 1 or 2 players. Possibly holding our key starters.
Regrettably i'd say let sell Pogba for 70m and get Reus,Isco,Cuadrado ahahah know it's impossible but that's my wet dream. With Klopp playing a 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3 xD having Vidal-Pirlo-Marchisio or Vidal and Marchisio and infront Reus-Isco-Cuadrado with Tevez or Morata as strikers or Reus-Tevez-Cuadrado XD
Playing 4 in defence with Lichsteiner-Barzagli-Chielini-Evra/Asamoah
Why for one god damned year dreams can't turn reality Y_Y_Y_Y
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Guys for next mercato we either need a world class winger or striker and a very good defender.
We don't really need players like Mata or Snejder.
I consider Mata over paid and priced. Never liked it at chelsea and even worse at United. It's not a game-breaking player but has the price of one.
So....
Winger/striker
Good Defender (proven one if possible)
I know Mata's good but we already invested a lot on Pereyra and we even have more CMs who can play there. Also Tevez if we want.
And really.... if i had to pick a AM i'd rather go for Isco,Shaqiri or Gotze.
Now we don't need any more deep in our bench. We need to put all our chips on 1 or 2 players. Possibly holding our key starters.
Regrettably i'd say let sell Pogba for 70m and get Reus,Isco,Cuadrado ahahah know it's impossible but that's my wet dream. With Klopp playing a 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3 xD having Vidal-Pirlo-Marchisio or Vidal and Marchisio and infront Reus-Isco-Cuadrado with Tevez or Morata as strikers or Reus-Tevez-Cuadrado XD
Playing 4 in defence with Lichsteiner-Barzagli-Chielini-Evra/Asamoah
Why for one god damned year dreams can't turn reality Y_Y_Y_Y
Tradition means nothing these days and those guaranteed trophies are Serie A titles and maybe Coppa Italia.
Those things can be won with those other clubs as well and there he'd have a real shot at winning the Champions League with most of them.
Also, naming Chelsea as a "traditional" team over City's pretty interesting. At least City had a history of winning something(even if it was a long time ago) before they were sold to a billionaire, while Chelsea won nothing prior to being owned by Abramowich.
Those things can be won with those other clubs as well and there he'd have a real shot at winning the Champions League with most of them.
Also, naming Chelsea as a "traditional" team over City's pretty interesting. At least City had a history of winning something(even if it was a long time ago) before they were sold to a billionaire, while Chelsea won nothing prior to being owned by Abramowich.
Negative ghost rider the pattern is full.
I'd rather develop world class players than buy them. Those "Diamond in the rough" type of acquisitions are by far the most satisfying transfers. Besides, spending on big names is hardly a guarantor of success. For every chance that guys like Reus, Isco et al. will be a success here, there is every bit a chance they could spectacularly flop.
I'd rather develop world class players than buy them. Those "Diamond in the rough" type of acquisitions are by far the most satisfying transfers. Besides, spending on big names is hardly a guarantor of success. For every chance that guys like Reus, Isco et al. will be a success here, there is every bit a chance they could spectacularly flop.
Well, Welcome to the world of Football created by those billionaire investors.
Those prices these days are retarded, especially if those english teams get involved.
And if we should be looking to create financial flexibility by selling a player it should be Vidal and not Pogba, IMO.
@Carlos Primera:
Yes, developing our own world class players. You certainly need a couple solid vets that can lead your team but the special ones are really expensive and would only be realistic if we buy them young and developt them into special players.
Those prices these days are retarded, especially if those english teams get involved.
And if we should be looking to create financial flexibility by selling a player it should be Vidal and not Pogba, IMO.
@Carlos Primera:
Yes, developing our own world class players. You certainly need a couple solid vets that can lead your team but the special ones are really expensive and would only be realistic if we buy them young and developt them into special players.
What we need of the utmost urgency is a damn solid LB, for years we've been crying out for one. I'm all for the change of formation to a 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1 and to facilitate that we need, at the very least, some dependable fullbacks. I remember during the season we signed Diego our 4-3-1-2 was about as useless as nipples on armour due to the lack of width, and we were duly taken apart by almost everyone and their mothers. I'm happy with the swiss express on the right, and believe Licht can still offer us at least 2 more great years of service. We need someone as good or better on the opposite side. Then 'de black supaman, Asa, can be shifted to his natural b2b/dm role and rotate with our midfield. One of the big reasons Conte stuck with the 3-5-2 in the first place was our lack of adequate full backs and abundance of solid CB's.
A Creative combo forward/winger comes after that. Someone who can play anywhere in the front line up top, behind the main striker or outwide. Reus would be THE player you would like, but we stand as much a chance signing him as Mariah Carey hopping back into Tommy Mottola's bed after a night with Nick "the cannon" Cannon. The good thing is that This type of player is quite abundant in world football, whereas WC fullbacks are about as rare as albino Anacondas.
A Creative combo forward/winger comes after that. Someone who can play anywhere in the front line up top, behind the main striker or outwide. Reus would be THE player you would like, but we stand as much a chance signing him as Mariah Carey hopping back into Tommy Mottola's bed after a night with Nick "the cannon" Cannon. The good thing is that This type of player is quite abundant in world football, whereas WC fullbacks are about as rare as albino Anacondas.
1st, the bolded part. i didnt say Chelsea is a traditional club. but City also doesent have more tradition than them. and simply having more titles doesent make you a more traditional club. if that was so, Nurnberg would be a more traditional club than Dortmund or Gladbach which isnt true.
League titles before 2004: City 2, Chelsea 1
FA Cups before 2004: City 4, Chelsea 3
League Cups before 2004: City 2, Chelsea 2
Cup winners Cup: City 1, Chelsea 2
UEFA Super Cup: Chelsea 1
also, keep in ind that Chelsea played CL before Abramovich (in 2000) when they went out to Barca (3-1, 1-5) in the QF. they then finished 4th and qualified for the CL again in 2003 by beating their direct rival Liverpool one year before Abramovich buyed them. You can see that they were an important club in English football before Abramovich too while City was in the 2nd and even 3rd division sometimes. Chelsea also have some players that spent there a long periond of time like Lampard, Tery, Drogba or Cech which makes them somehow likeable for some people unlike City who ditched their captain Steven Ireland as soon as they became a money club. but thats not the point. The point is, Chelsea is the only club from these new generation money-clubs who has established themself as a top European club. Playing CL semifinals 8 times in the past 11 seasons (2 finals and one title) with one QF exit, two R16 exits, and a group stage exit (which resulted in another European trophy) and all this when City struggles to even finish 3rd in they group in the past 4 years and the one time they finished 2nd they were eliminated immediately speaks of how supperior Chelsea is to City when it comes to European Cups. im telling you this to show you that 1st City doesent have more tradition than Chelsea (even when both dont have much of it) and 2nd that Chelsea is a more wanted destination for most footballers today (better project and more success)
now to the 1st part of your post. ofcourse those guaranteed trophies are Serie A and maybe Coppa Italia. can any club in Europe promise him that he would win a CL if he joins them? no. no-one can guarantee you CL trophies no matter how much money, tradition or quality they have. but my point was that Juventus, WITH Reus in the squad (and maybe one or two more signings), could become a CL contender. one of the strongest and most organized defensive teams in Europe (with Barzagli maybe the strongest) with a player like Reus upfront to support Tevez would be deadly (keep in mind that i said we only have a chance to get him if we reach a CL semifinal or sell Vidal and assuming that he would accept 6-7M salary). you cant say Reus wont think about it if we send an offer. winning serie A every year and being competitive for the CL while being one of 2-3 best players in the team surely is something to think about.
but since its only november now, and we have no clue how things would stand in march, april or may, lets talk about the winter mercato and leave the Reus talks for the summer mercato thread.
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fixed. now you sound like rakib
League titles before 2004: City 2, Chelsea 1
FA Cups before 2004: City 4, Chelsea 3
League Cups before 2004: City 2, Chelsea 2
Cup winners Cup: City 1, Chelsea 2
UEFA Super Cup: Chelsea 1
also, keep in ind that Chelsea played CL before Abramovich (in 2000) when they went out to Barca (3-1, 1-5) in the QF. they then finished 4th and qualified for the CL again in 2003 by beating their direct rival Liverpool one year before Abramovich buyed them. You can see that they were an important club in English football before Abramovich too while City was in the 2nd and even 3rd division sometimes. Chelsea also have some players that spent there a long periond of time like Lampard, Tery, Drogba or Cech which makes them somehow likeable for some people unlike City who ditched their captain Steven Ireland as soon as they became a money club. but thats not the point. The point is, Chelsea is the only club from these new generation money-clubs who has established themself as a top European club. Playing CL semifinals 8 times in the past 11 seasons (2 finals and one title) with one QF exit, two R16 exits, and a group stage exit (which resulted in another European trophy) and all this when City struggles to even finish 3rd in they group in the past 4 years and the one time they finished 2nd they were eliminated immediately speaks of how supperior Chelsea is to City when it comes to European Cups. im telling you this to show you that 1st City doesent have more tradition than Chelsea (even when both dont have much of it) and 2nd that Chelsea is a more wanted destination for most footballers today (better project and more success)
now to the 1st part of your post. ofcourse those guaranteed trophies are Serie A and maybe Coppa Italia. can any club in Europe promise him that he would win a CL if he joins them? no. no-one can guarantee you CL trophies no matter how much money, tradition or quality they have. but my point was that Juventus, WITH Reus in the squad (and maybe one or two more signings), could become a CL contender. one of the strongest and most organized defensive teams in Europe (with Barzagli maybe the strongest) with a player like Reus upfront to support Tevez would be deadly (keep in mind that i said we only have a chance to get him if we reach a CL semifinal or sell Vidal and assuming that he would accept 6-7M salary). you cant say Reus wont think about it if we send an offer. winning serie A every year and being competitive for the CL while being one of 2-3 best players in the team surely is something to think about.
but since its only november now, and we have no clue how things would stand in march, april or may, lets talk about the winter mercato and leave the Reus talks for the summer mercato thread.
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I'd really like us to get Lazio's Keita.
Him and Coman, dat pace
Morata/Gabbiadini
Keita - Coman - Berardi
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Him and Coman, dat pace
Morata/Gabbiadini
Keita - Coman - Berardi
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