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Rami

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Martin said:
in the kernel config... gentoo handbook talks about configuring the kernel, right?
I didn't get up to that...I just popped in the livecd and had no internet connection from there....I was pissed and determined to get it working....Now I did, all I had to do was manually configure my network, it recognized my network card after all;)
 
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Martin

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    Rami said:
    I didn't get up to that...I just popped in the livecd and had no internet connection from there....I was pissed and determined to get it working....Now I did, all I had to do was manually configure my network, it recognized my network card after all;)
    good ;)
     
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    Cultural Mosaic writes "Browser market share figures for September were released yesterday, and the numbers showed a big dip for Internet Explorer, as it dropped to just 82.10%, its lowest market share figure in years. Ars Technica notes that 'it's no surprise that Internet Explorer has been losing ground steadily over the past couple of years. There have been no significant innovations in the browser since XP SP2 was released over two years ago, and most of those were security tweaks.' Firefox grew from 10.77% in June to 12.46% while Safari jumped to its highest figure ever, 3.53%. I wonder how the release of Firefox 2.0 and IE 7 later this month will change the game?"
    http://slashdot.org/articles/06/10/11/2030231.shtml

    And IE is damn sure to start recovering ground with IE7 and Vista, this is a very culminating point for Firefox, to see in what measure they will be able to resist Vista and continue pushing their brand.
     
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    Robert McLaw from Windows Now writes: Ed Bott tells us about changes to the Windows Vista EULA. But that's not the whole story. Starting on Page 11, here is a synopsis of what I believe are the most far-reaching changes, as I have interpreted them:

    Home Basic

    * Can't copy ISO to your hard drive
    * Can't install to a network server
    * You may share files, printers, etc with a maximum of 5 network devices
    * You MAY NOT use Remote Desktop, only Remote Assistance
    * You MAY NOT use in Virtual PC | Virtual Server |VMWare

    Home Premium

    * Still can't copy ISO to your hard drive
    * Still can't install to a network server
    * Sharing for 10 network devices
    * Still no Remote Desktop
    * Still no virtual hardware
    * 5 simultaneous Media Center Extender sessions (up from 3 in MCE 2005)

    Ultimate

    * Can copy ISO to your hard drive
    * Can install to a network server (I'm assuming for Terminal Server scenarios)
    * Sharing for 10 network devices
    * Can use Remote Desktop
    * Can use in a virtualized environment, BUT
    * Can't use DRM-protected content if Vista Ultimate is the "guest" OS
    * Can't use BitLocker if Vista Ultimate is the "guest" OS
    * 5 Media Center Extender sessions

    http://www.activewin.com/awin/comments.asp?HeadlineIndex=36820


    Yes, because ISO's is how you distribute linux, that's eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeevil. So if you want to download an ISO and burn to cd to install linux, you'll have to do that on your WinXP system, or your ridiculously overpriced Windows Vista Ultimate Freedom and Democracy Edition.
     

    Rami

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    Martin said:
    Robert McLaw from Windows Now writes: Ed Bott tells us about changes to the Windows Vista EULA. But that's not the whole story. Starting on Page 11, here is a synopsis of what I believe are the most far-reaching changes, as I have interpreted them:

    Home Basic

    * Can't copy ISO to your hard drive
    * Can't install to a network server
    * You may share files, printers, etc with a maximum of 5 network devices
    * You MAY NOT use Remote Desktop, only Remote Assistance
    * You MAY NOT use in Virtual PC | Virtual Server |VMWare

    Home Premium

    * Still can't copy ISO to your hard drive
    * Still can't install to a network server
    * Sharing for 10 network devices
    * Still no Remote Desktop
    * Still no virtual hardware
    * 5 simultaneous Media Center Extender sessions (up from 3 in MCE 2005)

    Ultimate

    * Can copy ISO to your hard drive
    * Can install to a network server (I'm assuming for Terminal Server scenarios)
    * Sharing for 10 network devices
    * Can use Remote Desktop
    * Can use in a virtualized environment, BUT
    * Can't use DRM-protected content if Vista Ultimate is the "guest" OS
    * Can't use BitLocker if Vista Ultimate is the "guest" OS
    * 5 Media Center Extender sessions

    http://www.activewin.com/awin/comments.asp?HeadlineIndex=36820


    Yes, because ISO's is how you distribute linux, that's eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeevil. So if you want to download an ISO and burn to cd to install linux, you'll have to do that on your WinXP system, or your ridiculously overpriced Windows Vista Ultimate Freedom and Democracy Edition.
    Now thats just so cruel and looooooooooow!!!!:fero:

    Anyways I believe Linux hackers will find ways to circumvent that...

    I just hope all these restrictions MS are putting would be their bane...f*** them!!
     
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    Well it's mentioned that this is in the EULA. So it's unclear whether there are technical measures against it. Of course, knowing MS, I somehow doubt they would tell you 'you can't do this' and then let you do it anyway. Frankly I don't see how, would they check the file headers to see if they match the ISO filetype and then block the file transfer or something? That sounds so petty, kindergarden stuff really.
     
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    Martin

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    Are you saying that when you install Windows you do not anxiously skip to the EULA page to spend an hour on it? :D

    Btw most users never _see_ the EULA, Windows comes pre-installed and the EULA is printed in point 4 font on some piece of paper they never bother to read.
     

    Rami

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    Martin said:
    Are you saying that when you install Windows you do not anxiously skip to the EULA page to spend an hour on it? :D

    Btw most users never _see_ the EULA, Windows comes pre-installed and the EULA is printed in point 4 font on some piece of paper they never bother to read.
    No I download it of the internet, print it, and study it with my trusty red marker:D
     

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    Martin said:
    Yes, because ISO's is how you distribute linux, that's eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeevil. So if you want to download an ISO and burn to cd to install linux, you'll have to do that on your WinXP system, or your ridiculously overpriced Windows Vista Ultimate Freedom and Democracy Edition.
    this so fooking ridiculos. such a low blow...what explanation will they give for such a move i'm dying to see.
     

    sateeh

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    yeah that would be interesting to hear from the windows ppl.

    anyway i just read an article about the new office. Looks very interesting tbh. They r using tabs instead of the old file menu.The tabs handle all the commands. And ofcourse with a very nice GUI with shiney colors.
     
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    vlatko said:
    this so fooking ridiculos. such a low blow...what explanation will they give for such a move i'm dying to see.
    They don't have to know, noone reads the EULA.
     

    Rami

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    vlatko said:
    this so fooking ridiculos. such a low blow...what explanation will they give for such a move i'm dying to see.
    As Martin said they are trying mitigate the spreading of Linux on desktops...You haven't read the Halloween reports link I gave you, have you:p?
     

    Desmond

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    Martin said:
    So if you want to download an ISO and burn to cd to install linux, you'll have to do that on your WinXP system, or your ridiculously overpriced Windows Vista Ultimate Freedom and Democracy Edition.
    Well, its either that or the Windows Vista - Freedom and Democracy the Microsoft Way edition, which you will be able to get for far less...
     
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    In case anyone is interested, you _can_ boot WinXP with just 32mb of RAM. In vmware you can give it any amount and see what happens. :devil:
     

    Rami

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    Martin said:
    In case anyone is interested, you _can_ boot WinXP with just 32mb of RAM. In vmware you can give it any amount and see what happens. :devil:
    It loaded at 32 mb....but almost dead, totally not responding....
     

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