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Lion

King of Tuz
Jan 24, 2007
31,826
that's one brave puppet considering he is risking his life for this. not to r he is mention he is also a master hacker.
 

Eddy

The Maestro
Aug 20, 2005
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Eddy

The Maestro
Aug 20, 2005
12,644
Justi n. And here's the reason why Mastercard and Visa shut him down.

WikiLeaks cables: US 'lobbied Russia on behalf of Visa and MasterCard'


The US lobbied Russia this year on behalf of Visa and MasterCard in an attempt to ensure the payment companies were not "adversely affected" by new legislation, according to American diplomats in Moscow.

A state department cable released this afternoon by WikiLeaks reveals that US diplomats intervened to try to amend a draft law going through Russia's Duma. Their explicit aim was to ensure the new law did not "disadvantage" the two US firms, the cable states.

The revelation comes a day after Visa – apparently acting under intense pressure from Washington – announced it was suspending all payments to WikiLeaks, the whistle-blowing website. Visa was following MasterCard, PayPal and Amazon, all of which have severed ties with the site and its founder Julian Assange in the last few days.

The companies have justified their decision to stop donations on the grounds that WikiLeaks is acting "illegally". Each has quickly become the target of sustained online revenge attacks by disgruntled hackers, with mastercard.com paralysed today.

The cable, dated 1 February 2010, states that the Obama administration took up the companies' plight with senior Russian government officials. Earlier this year Moscow unveiled plans to create a new National Payment Card System (NPCS) that would collect all credit card fees on domestic transactions – depriving Visa and MasterCard of a major chunk of revenue.

A consortium of state-owned Russian banks would administer the system and collect processing fees "estimated at $4 billion a year", the cable claims. Additionally, sending payment data abroad would be forbidden under the law going through Russia's rubberstamp lower house of parliament – another potential blow to the US credit card companies.

In the cable Matthias Mitman, a US diplomat specialising in economic affairs, and based at the Moscow embassy, urged Obama's presidential commission on Russia to take up the issue. Obama agreed to found a new bilateral commission with the Russian president, Dmitry Medvedev, as part of the reset in US-Russian relations.

Mitman comments: "This draft law continues to disadvantage US payment card market leaders Visa and MasterCard, whether they join the National Payment Card System (NPCS) or not. If they join, the NPCS operator will collect the fees, leaving them to collect processing fees only when card-holders travel abroad – a tiny section of the market.

"If they do not join but choose to compete with NPCS cards, they will have to set up payment processing centers in Russia, a very large investment in itself, and compete against a system likely backed by the largest Russian state banks."

The answer, Mitman suggests, is for the Obama administration to actively bat for Visa and MasterCard. "While the draft legislation has yet to be submitted to the Duma and can still be amended, post will continue to raise our concerns with senior GOR officials.

"We recommend that senior USG officials also take advantage of meetings with their Russian counterparts, including through the Bilateral Presidential Commission, to press the GOR to change the draft text to ensure US payment companies are not adversely affected."
 

swag

L'autista
Administrator
Sep 23, 2003
83,473
Why is this a "leak"? I would have expected this regardless.

Julian Assange risked extradition so that he can expose that the U.S. president lobbied on behalf of national corporate interests?

That would make Assange a moron.
 

Martin

Senior Member
Dec 31, 2000
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icεmαή;2794864 said:
Didn't she recently say that North Korea were your allies. I hope she becomes your president. At the very least we would get some laughs :D
I'm not at all surprised that she's allied to North Korea, they are equally delusional.
 

Enron

Tickle Me
Moderator
Oct 11, 2005
75,252
icεmαή;2794864 said:
Didn't she recently say that North Korea were your allies. I hope she becomes your president. At the very least we would get some laughs :D
I'm not at all surprised that she's allied to North Korea, they are equally delusional.
She's an idiot, but she keeps the jokes coming for late night comedians.
 

Sadomin

Senior Member
Apr 5, 2005
7,212
what is sweden's law about rape? someone said sex without a condom without the consensus of the other participant is grounds for rape

we need swedish guys in here.
Sex without consensus of the other participant is obviously rape, regardless of the involvement of condoms of which there is no note in the law. Consensus is always essential in Sweden, even if it's sex within say, a marriage. The claims from certain foreign journalists and lawyers that women always win rape cases here is false, though. If I remember correctly, 10% of all rape cases end in a sentence. No need to worry if you're having sex in Sweden; you'll know when you're doing something wrong.

So a condom breaks midway through the act, and if one participant clearly wishes to stop but the other one ignores this and goes on, the mutual will is no longer there and you have some grounds for a rape charge. He is also charged with the less serious "sexuellt ofredande", which essentially requires him to have purposefully damaged the victim's sexual integrity. If he was being a real ass and somehow wanted to teach one of the women who's the man, then the latter could perhaps be applied if he crossed the line.

Of course, these are all based on claims from two women who have willingly had intercourse with him. The state will have a very hard time proving their case. And yes, the state are obliged to investigate all possible rape cases. The women never filed anything, but merely went to the police for "counsel" on the situation.
 

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