Wikileaks (35 Viewers)

[Bjerknes]

Andy's gone all Carl Rove. Either you're with us completely or your sheep! I love it!

Fuck off with that nonsense.

 

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[Enron]

Fuck off with that nonsense.

Me? You're the one insisting on calling everyone with a different position on government transparency "government drones".

 

[X Æ A-12]

You got it wrong. The government was never meant to control the masses, but rather to protect the lives and freedom of the masses. That's not what it is doing currently. And therefore, it cannot be trusted.

This should be completely obvious. It doesn't even take an event like an "unnamed US agency" letting an Underwear Bomber, who showed up on a terrorism database, on a flight to my family's city. It's very obvious the government is out of control and the only path from here is towards more tyranny.

I still don't see what the big deal over the leaks is anyway. From what I've seen they are mostly stuff that was already obvious and embarrassing foreign policy decisions that are only going to hurt relations with other countries.

Yep. It's been public for quite some time.

Good to know.

 

[Bjerknes]

Me? You're the one insisting on calling everyone with a different position on government transparency "government drones".

That had nothing to do with transparency dipshit. Read his post again.

 

[Bjerknes]

I still don't see what the big deal over the leaks is anyway. From what I've seen they are mostly stuff that was already obvious and embarrassing foreign policy decisions that are only going to hurt relations with other countries.


Good to know.

Much of it was speculated. This only confirms it. If something more damaging doesn't come out I may decide this whole thing is a nothingburger. Much more dire secrets out there than what has been revealed so far.

If it brings down a bank like BAC, I'll rejoice. So keep it coming.

 

[Enron]

That had nothing to do with transparency dipshit. Read his post again.

My bad. I thought you were flying off the handle like you did with Swag the other day.

Apologies.

 

[X Æ A-12]

Much of it was speculated. This only confirms it. If something more damaging doesn't come out I may decide this whole thing is a nothingburger. Much more dire secrets out there than what has been revealed so far.

If it brings down a bank like BAC, I'll rejoice. So keep it coming.

Was there something about the banks in the original leaks? I remember there was leaked information about credit card companies but I didn't hear about any banks.

 

[Bjerknes]

My bad. I thought you were flying off the handle like you did with Swag the other day.

Apologies.

But Greg is guilty of that. I've never once seen him take the other side of the establishment, unless the incumbent is Bush of course.

 

[Enron]

Much of it was speculated. This only confirms it. If something more damaging doesn't come out I may decide this whole thing is a nothingburger. Much more dire secrets out there than what has been revealed so far.

If it brings down a bank like BAC, I'll rejoice. So keep it coming.

I wonder if Assange stumbled across things that would actually endanger people or blow the roof off things (so to speak) if he would either not release those documents in the case of example 1 (injury to people) or save the documents in case he gets in a bind (blowing the roof off)?

People are assuming that he's just willy-nilly leaking documents as he pleases. What if he's been calculating this for a long time? He's not an idiot, so this could be the beginning.

Release a lot of medium sensitivity documents that confirm what people already thought to build a sort of credibility with the public... and then boom drop the real shit.

 

[Bjerknes]

Was there something about the banks in the original leaks? I remember there was leaked information about credit card companies but I didn't hear about any banks.

They supposedly have information on a major US bank. It could be nothing more than stuff everyone already knows, like JP Morgan having naked shorts in the silver market.

If this supposed info isn't groundbreaking then I'll finally stop paying attention to Wikileaks.

 

[Enron]

But Greg is guilty of that. I've never once seen him take the other side of the establishment, unless the incumbent is Bush of course.

Swag's no government drone. He's capable of thought and has obviously thought this out to be able to have an extended dialogue.


Anyways, saw Manchin shut down gays in the military today. And I'm off to study Geology.

 

[Bjerknes]

I wonder if Assange stumbled across things that would actually endanger people or blow the roof off things (so to speak) if he would either not release those documents in the case of example 1 (injury to people) or save the documents in case he gets in a bind (blowing the roof off)?

People are assuming that he's just willy-nilly leaking documents as he pleases. What if he's been calculating this for a long time? He's not an idiot, so this could be the beginning.

Release a lot of medium sensitivity documents that confirm what people already thought to build a sort of credibility with the public... and then boom drop the real shit.

Hopefully that is the case.

Apologies for calling you a dipshit earlier.

 

[X Æ A-12]

They supposedly have information on a major US bank. It could be nothing more than stuff everyone already knows, like JP Morgan having naked shorts in the silver market.

If this supposed info isn't groundbreaking then I'll finally stop paying attention to Wikileaks.

Supposedly have it? So Assange has more info that he hasn't published yet?

 

[Bjerknes]

Supposedly have it? So Assange has more info that he hasn't published yet?

Yes, locked up in that "emergency file."

 

[Martin]

I still don't see what the big deal over the leaks is anyway. From what I've seen they are mostly stuff that was already obvious and embarrassing foreign policy decisions that are only going to hurt relations with other countries.

It's not the same thing. Speculation is not something you can act on, evidence is. It's pretty much why police gather evidence, no? If suspicion alone was enough..

 

[Enron]

Hopefully that is the case.

Apologies for calling you a dipshit earlier.

I don't think I caught the dipshit thing but no worries in any case.

Supposedly have it? So Assange has more info that he hasn't published yet?

Yes Kyle. You need really need to read some news. Check out Huffingtonpost.com and Reuters from time to time.

 

[X Æ A-12]

Yes, locked up in that "emergency file."

So it's his final bargaining chip? I'd think he'd want to release before he gets shut down or murdered.

It's not the same thing. Speculation is not something you can act on. It's pretty much why police gather evidence, no? If suspicion alone was enough..

That's never stopped the US before.

Yes Kyle. You need really need to read some news. Check out Huffingtonpost.com and Reuters from time to time.

I've been really busy lately so I'm out of touch with recent news.

 

[Martin]

That's never stopped the US before.

Maybe not, but in theory that's what the courts should require. Of course, with so many US politicians being lawyers, they are naturally experts at working around an archaic premise like that, no?

Like that guy from Yale who typed up some document which magically made it legal (supposedly) for the Bush government to use torture openly.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

http://sowhyiswikileaksagoodthingagain.com/

Reload page at will.

 

[X Æ A-12]

Well duh global warming is obviously a scam.