why people dont think juve as a super power? (2 Viewers)

baggio

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Juve is not a very commercial club the way i see it. if u see their marketing its very restrained to staying within the borders of Italy. They dont publicise the club much, and they never buy superstars. So i guess, its hard to be hyped as a club whne u dont really care about ur marketing stratergies much. I think the main reason behind Juve's long Nike deal is to break in to markets Juve nver thot existed. And more than nething they want to use Nike's commercial standing worldwide to help them fulfil their ambitions of being renowned the world over.
 

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kaizer

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arsenal have been bad in europe, but still they are considered "super power".......


frankly, i dont care what other ppl say esp the media. i'd rather be the underdog. we know who we are.....and the prestige that comes along with that ;)
 

Majed

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    ++ [ originally posted by baggio ] ++
    Juve is not a very commercial club the way i see it. if u see their marketing its very restrained to staying within the borders of Italy. They dont publicise the club much, and they never buy superstars. So i guess, its hard to be hyped as a club whne u dont really care about ur marketing stratergies much. I think the main reason behind Juve's long Nike deal is to break in to markets Juve nver thot existed. And more than nething they want to use Nike's commercial standing worldwide to help them fulfil their ambitions of being renowned the world over.
    i agree with you about the marketing, but is this the only reason which make a team a super power?? or what they do in the field?
    i know its not that important what people think and the media,
    but of course everybody would love to hear that his club is a super power..
     

    Majed

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    ++ [ originally posted by bahraini ] ++


    i agree with you about the marketing, but is this the only reason which make a team a super power?? or what they do in the field?
    i know its not that important what people think and the media,
    but of course everybody would love to hear that his club is a super power..
    hmm.. We do hear it, but i agree that it's not as often as the Real Madrids and ManUs. Anyhow, i like it this way. I dont like my team having so many bandwagon supporters.
     

    gray

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    Apr 22, 2003
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    True that Majed. I'm glad we're not a huge club supported by every second person without an informed opinion. At least I know that when I see someone wearing a juve jersey around, they know the name of our coach. It's like a lottery with Man Utd. and Real fans
     

    Majed

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    ++ [ originally posted by gray ] ++
    True that Majed. I'm glad we're not a huge club supported by every second person without an informed opinion. At least I know that when I see someone wearing a juve jersey around, they know the name of our coach. It's like a lottery with Man Utd. and Real fans
    true....

    BTW, i like the lottery part :D
     
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    I like Juventus just the way they are. They're a fukkin good team but they're not too commercialized, and here in Malaysia at least you don't have fans of Juve like the glory-hunter fans of MU, Arse and Liverpool.

    BUT, it does get annoying because the EPL is rated SO MUCH HIGHER here and everywhere you look its all english teams, if not english it'll be spanish because Beckham and Real Madrid are there. Sometimes I feel they don't give enough credit to Juve- hell, not even AC Milan who won the CL. If it had been Real Madrid who won it the media would go goo-goo-ga-ga.
     

    baggio

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    ++ [ originally posted by bahraini ] ++


    i agree with you about the marketing, but is this the only reason which make a team a super power?? or what they do in the field?
    i know its not that important what people think and the media,
    but of course everybody would love to hear that his club is a super power..
    I think Juve forms the best example of what media hype can and cannot do for a team. We're as good if not better than the ManUs, Bayerns, Milans and Madrids of the world, but we still find little mention in the same breath as them. And i think its down to what the media makes of them, not how much they actually do on the field.

    But then again, maybe its a good thing we arent hyped. It plays down our strengths. Which is likely to hurt the opposition. I still remember last season in the CL. Some jackass of a columnist on soccernet, actually wrote Juve off in the CL semi against Madrid. Without any reasoning. Just because Madrid did a good job against Man U, he had decided they were going through to the final. I guess, he was made to eat his sorry words by an understated team.
     

    kaizer

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    yes, everybody wrote us off last season. only a few "intelligent" pundits sed that we're gonna win :thumb:


    and guess what, some ppl are writing us off against depor too this season. good, coz i want us to be the underdogs....less pressure
     

    Lilianna

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    ++ [ originally posted by Jankstakoolooo ] ++
    Do you really care what "everyone" else thinks?

    I don't give a shit what the media thinks of Juve. I think they're great and that's enough for me.

    But you gotta admit... there's nothing "super" about 7 CL finals and only two cups.

    you are absolutelly right!!!

    we all love juve...
    and i don;t want us to be a SUPER POWER because we have beckham, or because we have ruthelss players...

    we are the third richer team i think...right..??
    if we would like to become a SUPER POWER for the eyes of some idiots...
    we would have to buy becks,totti,sheva,zidane,figo,cannavaro,Van Nistelroi(gosh..what a name...i can'r even spell it!) etc...etc.....
    and have ENDLESS ads with alex naked....and buffon with a different porn star every night...

    unfortunatelly....super power......doesn't mean anymore(or at least...not so much) that this super power team is unbeatable with the greatest players...

    it's all damn commercial and i wouldn't like juve to end up like real madrid...
     

    Gogeta

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    Arsenal are not a super power, yeah in the english premiership they dominate along with man u but they are crap in europe. Also how can a super power be crap in europe and not be all that rich??
     

    mikhail

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    I think Arsenal are more a potential super-power than a current one. They're on the brink of toppling Man Utd, and a lot depends on whether Ferguson can hold out until Arsenal's money worries eventually stat to tell. If not, they risk going the way of the Liverpool.
     

    Hydde

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    Juventus is definitely a giant of the world football.... but other teams are more famous because they marketing, their stars and sometimes the media that affect this kind of things.

    Juventus is a more traditional football team.. while real madrid,manchester utd and other teams focus more in the marketin aspect than us.
     
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    bahraini

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    ++ [ originally posted by Lilianna ] ++



    you are absolutelly right!!!

    we all love juve...
    and i don;t want us to be a SUPER POWER because we have beckham, or because we have ruthelss players...

    we are the third richer team i think...right..??
    if we would like to become a SUPER POWER for the eyes of some idiots...
    we would have to buy becks,totti,sheva,zidane,figo,cannavaro,Van Nistelroi(gosh..what a name...i can'r even spell it!) etc...etc.....
    and have ENDLESS ads with alex naked....and buffon with a different porn star every night...

    unfortunatelly....super power......doesn't mean anymore(or at least...not so much) that this super power team is unbeatable with the greatest players...

    it's all damn commercial and i wouldn't like juve to end up like real madrid...

    :LOL:
     

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