Wheel of fortune (1 Viewer)

[Martin]

There has been so much talk about how apparently Juve get all calls their way blabla I thought it might be interesting to examine our "luck" throughout a season.. If you recall any incidents by all means add to the list, however I'm specifically interested in events to decide the match in question.

The premises for the count are as follows.
+ The fortune count gives 1 for a match with significant influence of "luck", 0 is neutral, -1 the opposite.
+ The match decider field gives the # of points in favor or opposite as a result of irregularities.
+ Penalty given wrongly only counts as match decider if it is in fact decisive (ie. penalty for 1-0 not match decisive when result is 2-0)

Examples..

A - Lazio 5-0
We get 5 non existent penalties to win 5-0 and get 3 points as a result of "mistakes" by the ref.

Fortune count: 1 (positive influence in the match, does not have to be decisive for the match outcome, just speculation of positive influence)
Match deciders: +2 pts (a win instead of a draw)


A - Atalanta 3-0
Net fortune: 0

No irregularities recorded.


CL - Feyenoord 1-1
Net fortune: -1
Match deciders: -2 pts

Van Hooijdonk given 3 chances to finally score from a free kick around 75'.


A - Empoli 2-0
Net fortune: 1
Match deciders: 0

Del Piero gets dubious penalty to score the first goal, IMO no penalty. Second goal scored in regular fashion, ie. penalty non decisive.


A - Parma 2-2
Net fortune: 1
Match deciders: 0

Speculation of a Del Piero handball on the 2nd goal, scored in the 95' minute. He jumps with Ferrari and they both handball, then he pulls his hand back and guides the ball into his running path. Some say it's deliberate, some say it isn't. I'm not convinced one way or another.


CL - Newcaste 2-0
Net fortune: 1
Match deciders: 0

Shearer's goal for 1-1 cancelled due to Dyer's offside, according to the player-who-interferes-with-play rule. Clearly Dyer had nothing to do with the play so the goal might as well have been given.

 

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[Sivori]

Neat system:thumb:

 

[Sarah_old]

Yeah..interesting

 

[Ali]

Good idea :thumb:

 

[Ian]

Wow, you really put some thought into that...

 

[s0ftcore]

sounds cool

 

[Majed]

This will be interesting

great idea :thumb:

......
one thing...should we report it by calculating as u did above, or should we just say it and then u do all the calculations and summery?

 

[Martin]

Whichever you prefer Part of the point is that situations that are unclear can be decided through discussion. Then points are calculated based on those conclusions.

 

[Majed]

kewl .....
sounds great...
i dont know about u all, but i think we'll end the season with a net Fortune of ZERO.... people ony tend to remember the negative things!

 

[Majed]

BTW, Del Piero mentioned, in his latest article, in www.juventus.com that a Parma player touched the ball with his hand before one of their goals....
maybe we should research this and find out if our net fortune for the Parma game is 0.

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here's the article from http://www.juventus.com/en/cmc/seriea/200239/cmc_36910.html


Del Piero, him again!
28 09 2002
This time Alex Del Piero scored “just” once: obviously we’re joking because the goal scored by the Captain counts twice or more. A goal that gave Juventus an important draw, a point for the standings and allowed blackandwhites to remain unbeaten.

A class goal scored in a delicate moment with Juventus charging in the final assault. Launched by Ferrara, Del Piero resisted to Ferrari, dribbled Frey and scored another great goal. But Parma’s players protested for a hand-touch. Alex explained the episode this way: “Me and Ferrari clashed and, sincerely, I couldn’t say if any of us had touched the ball. But the refereee could have also whistled in my favour for the push I received from Ferrari. I can understand that they’re angry, because the goal arrived right at the end. But Parma can’t complain because on their first goal Adriano touched clearly the ball with his hand”.
Juventus-Parma wasn’t, anyway, a match played just in the injury time. It was an exciting match with continuous counterattacks and, according to the blackandwhite’s words, with a brilliant Parma. “Parma played better than us – Del Piero confirmed – We know we didn’t play a great match but, after all, we succedeed in conquering a draw.”

 

[Martin]

Sounds like a good idea but I don't get any games over here so it's hard for me to decide.

 

[Desmond]

great idea,martin!i can just see some hot arguments here.....

 

[Sivori]

I have a feeling most of them will still come out in favour of Juve...

 

[BigIzz]

Good idea...it will be interesting to see what the net result is. Of course, us Juve fans will analyze it baised, but its worth a shot

 

[Ian]

I can see this making more controversy than there already is.