What would you think of Juventus being sold? (16 Viewers)

Jun 13, 2007
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#63
Football is all about money and it's all become a simple equation of - more money = more success. If selling the club means getting rid of our fullbacks and incompetent strikers then sell the FUCK out of the team.
 

Azzurri7

Pinturicchio
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Dec 16, 2003
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#68
You need money but it's not all about money. It took Moratti's fortune to win 1 CL in more than 45 years while decade + to win Scudetti and thanks to Calciopoli.


You need some cash surely but above all good mang.
 
Jun 13, 2007
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#69
You need money but it's not all about money. It took Moratti's fortune to win 1 CL in more than 45 years while decade + to win Scudetti and thanks to Calciopoli.


You need some cash surely but above all good mang.
Definitely, but my point is that it's impossible to be consistently successful without having shit load of money. I mean, even if a team like Porto wins the Champions League, it's just going to end up selling its players to richer teams. In the end, there is a monopoly on talent imposed by the super rich. Teams like Man City will inevitably be successful. There aren't two ways about it.

I think management is important of course, but it's not as effective as money.
 

Azzurri7

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Dec 16, 2003
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#70
Definitely, but my point is that it's impossible to be consistently successful without having shit load of money. I mean, even if a team like Porto wins the Champions League, it's just going to end up selling its players to richer teams. In the end, there is a monopoly on talent imposed by the super rich. Teams like Man City will inevitably be successful. There aren't two ways about it.

I think management is important of course, but it's not as effective as money.
To me it's completely the inverse.

Exaggeration ala Man. City style will always back-fire. Just like what was happening with Madrid as-well.
 
Jun 13, 2007
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#71
To me it's completely the inverse.

Exaggeration ala Man. City style will always back-fire. Just like what was happening with Madrid as-well.
Right, but that's because when a club spends a lot of money you automatically raise your expectations. So you're saying Man City's spending backfired, did it really?

Who was Man City before they were bought? Now they are competing in the top 3 of the Premiership.

Real Madrid used to spend so much that people automatically assumed that if they don't win everything, they're a failure. But Real was always finishing in the top 2 in La Liga, and were going far in the CL.


I can't think of a single example of a team who spend a lot of money but achieved no success, but I can think of many well-managed teams who experienced little or no success.
 

Azzurri7

Pinturicchio
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Dec 16, 2003
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#72
Right, but that's because when a club spends a lot of money you automatically raise your expectations. So you're saying Man City's spending backfired, did it really?

Who was Man City before they were bought? Now they are competing in the top 3 of the Premiership.
Sooner or later their top 3 wont be their goal but winning the Championship, which I don't see it happening. Time will tell, I could be wrong.

Real Madrid used to spend so much that people automatically assumed that if they don't win everything, they're a failure. But Real was always finishing in the top 2 in La Liga, and were going far in the CL.
They have failed miserably in CL for years now. Haven't seen them in the Semi's since some almost 02-03 if I'm not mistaken.

La Liga to me is between them and Barcelona. If one of them has an awful season it automatically means finishing 2nd place. The rest can't compete with them.
 

Enron

Tickle Me
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Oct 11, 2005
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#73
Right, but that's because when a club spends a lot of money you automatically raise your expectations. So you're saying Man City's spending backfired, did it really?

Who was Man City before they were bought? Now they are competing in the top 3 of the Premiership.

Real Madrid used to spend so much that people automatically assumed that if they don't win everything, they're a failure. But Real was always finishing in the top 2 in La Liga, and were going far in the CL.


I can't think of a single example of a team who spend a lot of money but achieved no success, but I can think of many well-managed teams who experienced little or no success.
Leeds United.
 

swag

L'autista
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Sep 23, 2003
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#76
Just wait when the top bid comes from a family consortium represented by a certain Signore Joseph Vinco. :pado:
 
Jun 13, 2007
7,233
#77
Sooner or later their top 3 wont be their goal but winning the Championship, which I don't see it happening. Time will tell, I could be wrong.

They have failed miserably in CL for years now. Haven't seen them in the Semi's since some almost 02-03 if I'm not mistaken.

La Liga to me is between them and Barcelona. If one of them has an awful season it automatically means finishing 2nd place. The rest can't compete with them.


A lot of money and no success? HELLO! REAL MADRID!
True Madrid haven't won it since they crashed out to us in the semi final back in 03, but they did win it in 01 because of their big spending.


Again, let's not downplay the Spanish League too much. There's a reason why they finish either 1st or 2nd every single year and it's just because the Spanish League is shit, but because Madrid are consistently on a higher level because they're always signing world class players.


Let me put it this way. The only two times a team that wasn't a crazy spender won the CL in the last 10 years was when Porto and Liverpool did it. 8/10 for the rich boys isn't bad at all.
 

.zero

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Aug 8, 2006
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#78
I wouldn’t mind it if a sheik bought the club. The way I see it is they want to win and make more money. Well the only way to achieve both is by investing money into the team. Hiring the right staff and creating a winning atmosphere.

- Investing money into good players = better results
- Better results = more fan spending
- More fan spending = more revenue and more money to re-invest into the club

Get rid of this ownership and its stupid fucking front office, management, operations, coaching, etc...

Yes, lets blow up the Old Lady and give her a full body makeover. If I had my choice of old ladies, I would choose Morgan Fairchild over Bea Arthur any day.

Roll tide

Andy’s balls
 

Klin

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May 27, 2009
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#79
I heard Sheiks don't like marinara and bolognese sauces, parmesan cheese and ricotta cannelloni.

So y'all should fuggedaboutit.
 

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