Sun moves my friend. It is 2009 and you don't know a thing Mohammed knew about 1500 years ago.
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You don't understand. That's not what I said. Again, two possibilities:
1) Joseph is wrong. Muhammad MIGHT be right, but you have to acknowledge the fact that it is easy to lie. Because Joseph did. And people believed him.
2) Joseph is right, Islam is wrong.
And saying that the Sun moves is not revolutionary. Everyone used to say it did.
1) Joseph is wrong. Muhammad MIGHT be right, but you have to acknowledge the fact that it is easy to lie. Because Joseph did. And people believed him.
2) Joseph is right, Islam is wrong.
And saying that the Sun moves is not revolutionary. Everyone used to say it did.
Talk about cynical historians pffft 
When i say "changes" i mean Ze's and DPFL's kids/grandchildren changing, because i think that's what will happen. But i'll be more smart and i'll leave space for the second option which is "my kids or my grandchildren becoming muslim because they realized Islam is the true religion and everything said in the Qoran, and the story behind the Qoran, was correct".
Or am i being too optimistic now and i should go 2-3 generations after our grandchildren?
He didn't say Earth is stand still you dumb.
3) 88- When you look at the mountains, you think that they are standing still. But they are moving like clouds. Such is the artistry of God, who disposes of all things in perfect order. He is indeed fully aware of what you do.
27-The Ant, 88
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He didn't say Earth is stand still you dumb.
3) 88- When you look at the mountains, you think that they are standing still. But they are moving like clouds. Such is the artistry of God, who disposes of all things in perfect order. He is indeed fully aware of what you do.
27-The Ant, 88
Talk about getting owned
3) 88- When you look at the mountains, you think that they are standing still. But they are moving like clouds. Such is the artistry of God, who disposes of all things in perfect order. He is indeed fully aware of what you do.
27-The Ant, 88
Talk about getting owned
Oh,
and the mountains don't move like clouds.
The Sun does move, Martin. But the question is whether or not Earth revolves around the Sun. Muhammad didn't answer that.
If it was already there before Muhammad, he can't take the credit. You can't use someone else's theory to prove your book is right FFS.
To be honest I think most people don't believe what they're seeing in this thread. I bet Martin never knew people could be this dumb.
If it was already there before Muhammad, he can't take the credit. You can't use someone else's theory to prove your book is right FFS.
To be honest I think most people don't believe what they're seeing in this thread. I bet Martin never knew people could be this dumb.
Did he say Big Bang? Did he say singularity? Did he say small atoms fused by gravity to become larger atoms? Not that I can see.
What he said right there was some silly speculation that can be interpreted as vaguely true. But I bet he said a lot of other stuff that turned out to be completely wrong too.
What he said right there was some silly speculation that can be interpreted as vaguely true. But I bet he said a lot of other stuff that turned out to be completely wrong too.
Well, i might be pessimistic about it, but the differences are too big right now.
When i say "changes" i mean Ze's and DPFL's kids/grandchildren changing, because i think that's what will happen. But i'll be more smart and i'll leave space for the second option which is "my kids or my grandchildren becoming muslim because they realized Islam is the true religion and everything said in the Qoran, and the story behind the Qoran, was correct".
Or am i being too optimistic now and i should go 2-3 generations after our grandchildren?
When i say "changes" i mean Ze's and DPFL's kids/grandchildren changing, because i think that's what will happen. But i'll be more smart and i'll leave space for the second option which is "my kids or my grandchildren becoming muslim because they realized Islam is the true religion and everything said in the Qoran, and the story behind the Qoran, was correct".
Or am i being too optimistic now and i should go 2-3 generations after our grandchildren?
19- He has let free the two seas meeting together.
20- Between them there is a barrier which they do not transgress.
55-Gracious, 19-20
A famous French oceanographer, J. Cousteau, gives the following account as a result of his studies in water barriers: “We studied the assertions by certain researchers about barriers separating seas, and noticed that the Mediterranean Sea had its own salinity and density and housed autochthonous fauna and flora. Then we examined the water of the Atlantic Ocean and discovered features entirely different from those of the Mediterranean Sea. According to our expectations, these two seas that merged in the strait of Gibraltar should present similar characteristics in terms of salinity, density and other properties. The two seas presented different features even though they were adjacent. This greatly puzzled us. An incredible barrier prevented the two seas from coming together. The same sort of a barrier had also been observed in Bab Al-Mandab in the Gulf of Aden connecting with the Red Sea.
Subsequent to our observations, further researchers made it clear that the seas which had different characteristics had some barriers.” This fact that astounded oceanographers was revealed 14 centuries ago in the Quran. This aspect, not visible to the naked eye and appearing to be in conflict with the properties of water known to man, was first revealed to men in the Arabian peninsula, men who were not at all experienced in any sense with oceanography.
20- Between them there is a barrier which they do not transgress.
55-Gracious, 19-20
A famous French oceanographer, J. Cousteau, gives the following account as a result of his studies in water barriers: “We studied the assertions by certain researchers about barriers separating seas, and noticed that the Mediterranean Sea had its own salinity and density and housed autochthonous fauna and flora. Then we examined the water of the Atlantic Ocean and discovered features entirely different from those of the Mediterranean Sea. According to our expectations, these two seas that merged in the strait of Gibraltar should present similar characteristics in terms of salinity, density and other properties. The two seas presented different features even though they were adjacent. This greatly puzzled us. An incredible barrier prevented the two seas from coming together. The same sort of a barrier had also been observed in Bab Al-Mandab in the Gulf of Aden connecting with the Red Sea.
Subsequent to our observations, further researchers made it clear that the seas which had different characteristics had some barriers.” This fact that astounded oceanographers was revealed 14 centuries ago in the Quran. This aspect, not visible to the naked eye and appearing to be in conflict with the properties of water known to man, was first revealed to men in the Arabian peninsula, men who were not at all experienced in any sense with oceanography.
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