What is your god like? (20 Viewers)

[Hist]

Of course... but depends what limits you have and what's your definition of freedom

Just like My father wouldn't accept me(his son) taking drugs, drinking Alcohol every night etc etc I wouldn't accept my sister for example to sleep with someone who is fooling around screwing each night and at the end of the day she ends up marrying someone else.

There's a way of seeing freedom. There are limits for everything.

nice answer...well said

where is juve-revolution so he can reflect on this topic using his objective moral law.

So there is only one god, I see. Then that means you believe in this guy:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poseidon

Poseidon, god of the see. If you don't make sacrifices to him he will sink your ship.

LMFAO HAHAHA!!

 

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[Juve_fanatic]

I don't get this.

Yeah, i tought so.

 

[Alen]

Yeah, i tought so.

Well...explain. :smile:

 

[rounder]

nice answer...well said

where is juve-revolution so he can reflect on this topic using his objective moral law.

Clearly, you don't understand the concept of an objective moral law.

 

[DelpieroForLife]

I don't know if you're aware of this, but Martin says you're an idiot.

It's just that he does so in a nice way.

If I were you, I'd come up with some arguments.

You know what? I don't think you are a fool eventhough you continuously make yourself look like one... I may even dare to say you have an average intelligence but only one thing and one thing only is preventing you from living to your real potential and this thing is: TRYING SO HARD TO SOUND SUPERBLY SMART WHILE YOU ARE NOT.

Act naturally and you will improve.

 

[DelpieroForLife]

Yes that is our methodology but i want to listen to the theistic answer to this.

Some theists do not see this as a problem threatening their belief. Most people i know who are almost all theists think they believe in God based on some evidence or reason, but they never really take the time to think about it.
I have two problems with any particular religions (Islam and christianity)
1) Can you know if God exists? if yes then on what basis?
2) Assuming God existence, why be a muslim rather than a christian? why not believe in the scripture of ancient greece rather than the Quran or the bible?
In a word what is books divine-like and what are not.
This actually i will dedicate a new thread to as i want to really investigate it and see what people suggests.

1) I believe God exist but I don't think his existence can be proved scientifically. But what about the opposite question? I mean, starting from the teeny little thing that started the Big Bang What is the odds of a random evolution which lead to a universe in its sophisticated shape today? Personally I believe it is null.

2) What is so wrong with that?

 

[Azzurri7]

Yeah, and she'll feel bad, she'll feel used by the boy......but after a while she'll end up having sex with another guy.
You know why? Because she has hormons and she needs and wants to have sex. Just like you do.

I know she has hormons just like any other girl and needs her satisfaction just like men as-well. But I'd rather have her wait until she gets married rather than change men and try different taste of sex.

Personally, I lose all my respect to any women on this earth if i knew that she's in different relations each couple of months and having sex with different men. No matter how pretty/beautiful she is.

And not having sex before marriage..... how do the girls accept this? Maybe you have a very small dick and you'll never satisfy her. Maybe she's frigid and she's a bad fuck and she'll never satisfy you.
Will you live your entire life with a partner that won't be able to satisfy your sexual needs?

What do you mean how they accept this? Let give you example, I'll give you example about us...

My sisters where never in a relationship before getting married, my parents never had any red lines saying what is allowed and what is not. Just like any normal girl, they can like a guy but they were CONVINCED and this is how they build their own life without any pressure, that the only man they should give themselves to, their body, their soul, etc, is the husband and no one else. They were totally convinced this way and they never had a problem.

Satisfaction is part of sex true, but whether you have a big small dick, that's not going to change much so long you're satisfied with yourself and what you're doing. If a woman complains or dumps her husband because of his dick size, then to me she's no more a woman but a prostitute. Official prostitute.

But again and again, I could be wrong here and I don't want to look like I'm totally right, because each one has his own theory or way of things.

 

[Azzurri7]

because men and women are equal.

Not in everything I'm afraid.

It's in our nature that we like to look superior to women. That's a fact. I agree with the term of men and women being equal but like always, (to me at least) there's limit for everything and then there's way of accepting things.

I'll ask you this for example, please, don't get it wrong, but would you for example allow your wife to flirt with some men in an internet forum daily? I think you know what I'm hinting at. Would you?

Another thing, there are very small details in life or small things that you can't be equal to your wife with or your sister. There are ways of living, for example, I wouldn't accept my sister/wife going out at 4pm for example and coming back at 4 or 5 in the morning. You know why? Because they're women and because this world is full of men. It's never scary for a man returning back home at 5am. It is for a woman.

I don't want to sound unfair but there are things you can't be equal to a woman. Not because I like or I want to force my rules in the house but because women don't think like men, don't act like men.... etc.

 

[Seven]

1) I believe God exist but I don't think his existence can be proved scientifically. But what about the opposite question? I mean, starting from the teeny little thing that started the Big Bang What is the odds of a random evolution which lead to a universe in its sophisticated shape today? Personally I believe it is null.
2) What is so wrong with that?

The odds are one to one.

At some point it has to evolve.

 

[Enron]

Sunday morning and Andries visits a jesus thread?

 

[Seven]

I personally would not appreciate living in a society where people sleep around, kid's don't know who their fathers are ...etc.

Like you i find it hard to understand how accepting you are to these kind of things. You're saying you wouldn't mind your daughter/ sister having sex with multiple partners before marriage??

Hmm.. I have to say that in some ways western society can be too much about sex. What's especially bad is the rise of teen moms in some areas. But if they both like each other and they use protection.. who am I to say it's wrong?

 

[Raz]

Why almost all religious people here gets very emotional and really offended here when the subject comes to their god of choosing. No one here is offending you, yet you come here like someone just raped your sister. :luckyluke: Is this really such a big problem, when you see something is that challenging your belief system?

 

[Fred]

It doesn't matter what i want. It matters what she wants. She won't be my property.
Sex is not a bad thing and i have no right to interfere there. It doesn't matter if she's a woman either, because men and women are equal. If i mind that my sister's having sex then i should equally mind if my brother's having sex. If i mind that my daughter's having sex i should also mind that my son's having sex.
If i don't mind the male members of my family having sex, then i must not mind if the female members of my family have sex.
I certainly wouldn't like her to be a prostitute and have 100's of sex partners, but having sex with a boyfriend of hers is something i won't mind at all. It's her right how many boyfriends she has and how many sex partner she has.


Maybe i find it easier to talk about this because i don't have a sister and i probably won't have a daughter, but i think that i'd have said the same things even if i did.

I think you have a few misconceptions here Alen.

1) I wouldn't accept neither my male relatives nor my female relatives to have sex before marriage. No exceptions whatsoever.

2) Most muslim women are convinced they shouldn't have sex before marriage btw, even if they do have sex, they know it's wrong. It's not like they are being held forcefully against their will


Hope that cleared things up.

I am against the whole idea of unmarried sex, not against the idea of females having sex before marriage.

 

[Martin]

I am against the whole idea of unmarried sex, not against the idea of females having sex before marriage.

Wait, what? This is a self contradiction.

 

[Fred]

Wait, what? This is a self contradiction.

Didn't come out right. I meant i wasn't against females having sex before marriage and ok with males having it. I'm against both having sex before marriage.

 

[Lawnchair Bes]

1) I believe God exist but I don't think his existence can be proved scientifically. But what about the opposite question? I mean, starting from the teeny little thing that started the Big Bang What is the odds of a random evolution which lead to a universe in its sophisticated shape today? Personally I believe it is null.

then you dont understand the nature of the universe

 

[Hist]

Clearly, you don't understand the concept of an objective moral law.

i do understand it but i dont think its true..
what does your objective moral law say about this?

 

[Seven]

Clearly, you don't understand the concept of an objective moral law.

No offense, but I still think you don't fully understand what objective means. It would clear up a lot if you didn't, because it would explain why you keep returning to the same question.

 

[DelpieroForLife]

then you dont understand the nature of the universe

Care to enlighten me?

 

[DelpieroForLife]

The odds are one to one.

At some point it has to evolve.

Why?