What do people think of loaning now? (3 Viewers)

[Bjerknes]

During the summer while we were discussing the futures of Giovinco, Marchisio, and Criscito, the majority of members here agreed that it would be best to send these players away on loan. In the past it frankly has not worked, and most players were left to languish on the bench. Then came along Giovinco and Marchisio who have done well thus far on loan at Empoli, especially the former. Criscito hasn't been in the greatest of form this season, although I wouldn't label him particulary terrible.

But now that it's quite obvious we need the talent of Giovinco and perhaps even Marchisio, we don't have them. And since we agreed to a year loan in the purchase of Almiron, I don't think there is a scheme to take them back right now... right now when we need them.

It has been strikingly obvious that we are short on good central defenders and a left-back, yet we have just loaned out Criscito for 6 months. Why? What is the point of doing that? Everybody here could see that we need options at the back, and now since Chiellini is most likely out for a few weeks, we only have Boumsong as backup. So now we don't have Criscito... right now when we need him.

Over the years we have seen that this loaning of players has really not worked, and this year it has worked but we could certainly use those players. All in all, this nonsensical loaning has to stop at some point. Some of these decisions might cost us a Champions League spot, something we cannot afford.

 

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[Martin]

You're right, Criscito was a mistake. Should have loaned out Iaquinta.

 

[cunninlynguists]

Sometimes I think that our board is playing FM all day, and based on that, they buy players or loan them out.
Like they save before every game, and when they lose they press 'quit game' and play the game over.
I think that this is where the optimism comes from, that we might have a chance to win the title. Never gonna get it

 

[Bjerknes]

You're right, Criscito was a mistake. Should have loaned out Iaquinta.

Don't be ridiculous Martin. There was no purpose to the Criscito loan, and you know it. Now we might have to rely on Boumsong at the back in Serie A.

 

[Snoop]

I think the majority of this forum wanted Giovinco to stay.

 

[Salvatore]

Loaning is the watery shits. Buy or sell. DON'T loan or co-own

We loaned out Olivera, another bad example of loaning out. Cash in and use the money for someone decent.

 

[Bjerknes]

I think the majority of this forum wanted Giovinco to stay.

I think that is true, but from what I have seen the majority of posters here have defended loaning for a number of years. Strangely enough, the only really successful loan has been Giovinco.

 

[Lion]

there was nothing wrong with loaning out Criscito. He was rotting on the bench and that's not good for a developing CB. The problem was that we loaned Criscito without getting a replacement signed first. Very stupid.

Giovinco and Marchisio should have not left us. Both of them we ready to play for Juventus (and both of them would have) taking into consideration the injuries to Camo, Marchionni and the struggle of both Almiron and Tiago.

 

[Martin]

Don't be ridiculous Martin. There was no purpose to the Criscito loan, and you know it. Now we might have to rely on Boumsong at the back in Serie A.

The real problem seems to be that we make so many bad transfers that the only thing to do with these players is keep sending them on loan. The loans this year are of a different character, young players we supposedly don't need at the moment. But all the loan deals we've made over the past years have been trying to ditch dead wood.

Btw the Criscito loan is completely stupid.

 

[Ahmed]

it does look stupid now that we aren't getting any defensive backup in the January transfer window...but lets c maybe they might get some1 and the situation may not look as bad...

 

[Stephan]

Its very easy to say these things now.

How much would have marchisio played if he would have been here from the start of the season? Now we know our midfielders we bought have been flops, but back in autumn it wasnt the case. Besides tiago and almiron we also have zanetti and noce who eventually became the starting pair. We had 4 dms and we arent in europe. Marchisio would have hardly played, and if he would have, then someone would have complained here again, why dont we play our big summer transfer players?

Same can be said about giovinco as well. Heck it took him about half of the season to become starter in Empoli, but you cant rush young players.


The main problem is that we let criscito go before we "replaced" him. Another defender is a must now, with criscito staying we still should have bought another def, but we could have waited a bit longer. I fear that our management will go crazy and desperately sign some average defender aka melberg or god knows, maybe lure thuram back or who knows.

 

[Enron]

I don't think anyone wins in loaning unless you are the receiving team and are thinking about purchasing the player in the future. Then again it is always good to get young players playing time at the highest level. Though they probably could have done that by playing Chriscito.

 

[swag]

Don't be ridiculous Martin. There was no purpose to the Criscito loan, and you know it. Now we might have to rely on Boumsong at the back in Serie A.

Loaning out Criscito is a little odd. On the one hand, he wasn't getting Juve playing time and we need the guy to have a chance to develop. He wasn't getting it on the bench, as we couldn't afford his mistakes.

The problem is without Andrade or Chiellini (who himself should really be playing LB), we now have to afford Boumsong's mistakes...

 

[Ahmed]

Its very easy to say these things now.

How much would have marchisio played if he would have been here from the start of the season? Now we know our midfielders we bought have been flops, but back in autumn it wasnt the case. Besides tiago and almiron we also have zanetti and noce who eventually became the starting pair. We had 4 dms and we arent in europe. Marchisio would have hardly played, and if he would have, then someone would have complained here again, why dont we play our big summer transfer players?

Same can be said about giovinco as well. Heck it took him about half of the season to become starter in Empoli, but you cant rush young players.


The main problem is that we let criscito go before we "replaced" him. Another defender is a must now, with criscito staying we still should have bought another def, but we could have waited a bit longer. I fear that our management will go crazy and desperately sign some average defender aka melberg or god knows, maybe lure thuram back or who knows.

Marchisio's loan seemed very unreasonable to me...the guy was a starter for us last year...sure it was Serie B but a partnership with Zanetti was being developed, and yes he may not have expected to start ahead of Tiago and Almiron, but he certainly should not have been sent away to Empoli

 

[Cronios]

I think it depends on the situation, despite the fans wishing Giovinco here, i think he wouldnt have more luck than Palla has. He would be played out of position once in a century.
Unfortunately CR's formations have no rooms for an CAM at the moment...
Marchisio might have find a spot fill some guys since he can cover many places in the field.
Criscito was the greatest mistake, we shouldnt toy with him like that,
we should either trust or loan him from the beginning, the situation in our defense is tragic...

 

[Red]

I think it depends on the situation, despite the fans wishing Giovinco here, i think he wouldnt have more luck than Palla has. He would be played out of position once in a century.
Unfortunately CR's formations have no rooms for an CAM at the moment...
Marchisio might have find a spot fill some guys since he can cover many places in the field.
Criscito was the greatest mistake, we shouldnt toy with him like that,
we should either trust or loan him from the beginning, the situation in our defense is tragic...

 

[Stephan]

Marchisio's loan seemed very unreasonable to me...the guy was a starter for us last year...sure it was Serie B but a partnership with Zanetti was being developed, and yes he may not have expected to start ahead of Tiago and Almiron, but he certainly should not have been sent away to Empoli

as i said at the start of the season we had: tiago, almiron, zanetti and nocerino. And if you say he could have played in other position, then if he is supposed to be a central mid, and we would have played him on a wing or something, how would he develop them.
It has been the case before, when a player is played out of his position and never will deliver (aka mutu, who played LM), its even more "crucial" when its a young player who has his developing time.

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

I loaned my penisdick to my handjockey and it worked okay.

 

[swag]

Well, one thing that would make more sense in loaning Criscito out: if there are designs to recruit a CB during the Jan transfer window.

I'm reserving my "idiocy" calls until after that happens.

 

[Maher]

I think the majority of this forum wanted Giovinco to stay.