What Are You Doing Right Now? (180 Viewers)

[Siamak]

@mjromeo81
What references/sources did you use to learn IT subjects during your practicing and intern?
I'm asking this because, if I'm not mistaken, you once said that you had some studies before taking the job.

 

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[IliveForJuve]

I must apologise for my erratic posting this past week. I did 6 days in a row working for upwards of 9 hours each day average at my exhausting job and my brain has been melted.

The usual slightly better informed and better formulated nonsense will resume shortly

What a lazy ass European. That's an average American work week.

 

[Scottish]

What a lazy ass European. That's an average American work week.

Después de vivir en América latina quería tomar unas vacaciones

 

[IliveForJuve]

Después de vivir en América latina quería tomar unas vacaciones

Te reventaban el orto de trabajo en Uruguay?

 

[mjromeo81]

@mjromeo81
What references/sources did you use to learn IT subjects during your practicing and intern?
I'm asking this because, if I'm not mistaken, you once said that you had some studies before taking the job.

I completed a Bachelor of Information Technology at university here in Melbourne.

During the degree I decided I wanted to specialise in a certain area, so I also studied for the relevant industry certifications. e.g. for Oracle database, the Oracle Certified Professional DBA exams.

It really depends which area of IT you are interested in - IT is very broad. e.g. Software Development, Operations (DevOps, Administration, Platform Engineering, Network Engineering, etc.), Analytics/Data Engineering, Cyber Security, QA, Project Management, etc.

Is there a particular role you would like or are targeting?

 

[.zero]

@mjromeo81
What references/sources did you use to learn IT subjects during your practicing and intern?
I'm asking this because, if I'm not mistaken, you once said that you had some studies before taking the job.

Learn and use everything you can about AI tools and prompt engineering. You need to skate where the puck is headed, not where the puck is.

 

[Dostoevsky]

Guys when is the tax return in the US? When do you get the money? Any specific month?

 

[Wings]

Learn and use everything you can about AI tools and prompt engineering. You need to skate where the puck is headed, not where the puck is.

To add to the above you can never go wrong with cyber security.

 

[Siamak]

I completed a Bachelor of Information Technology at university here in Melbourne.

During the degree I decided I wanted to specialise in a certain area, so I also studied for the relevant industry certifications. e.g. for Oracle database, the Oracle Certified Professional DBA exams.

It really depends which area of IT you are interested in - IT is very broad. e.g. Software Development, Operations (DevOps, Administration, Platform Engineering, Network Engineering, etc.), Analytics/Data Engineering, Cyber Security, QA, Project Management, etc.

Is there a particular role you would like or are targeting?

To be honest I didn't learn much in university, most subjects and materials that offer by Universities are too theorical to understand and not Practical for landing a job. The curriculums, for the most part, have IT in their name, but don't seem like they're focused on any particular aspect of IT to prepare students for taking a job. Some books and materials that I took during the university were useful for learning the basic, I would say it is not an easy journey to learn without solid IT knowledge but they didn't help much.
I was self-studying and also attending boot camps and online courses for example I read CEH V10 by Ric Messier, CCNP Route 642-902 by Wendell Odom, Web Penetration Testing with Kali Linux by Joseph Muniz, and took some courses such as CCNA 200-301, MCSA, LPIC 1, NSE4 FortiGate, Security+, CCNA Security (210-260 IINS) and etc.

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To add to the above you can never go wrong with cyber security.

Linux and Security+ as the basic lead into Cybersecurity.

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@mjromeo81
I just wanted to know the resources and courses you took. I'm more curious to know what resources they use in foreign countries(overseas of my geography).

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

At least you guys didn't have to deal with bhushit today

I do know someone that had to tip for Ass though.

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

Learn and use everything you can about AI tools and prompt engineering. You need to skate where the puck is headed, not where the puck is.

Are there really any resources right now that are actually worth it in these fields? It feels too new for it yet.

 

[.zero]

Are there really any resources right now that are actually worth it in these fields? It feels too new for it yet.

There are plenty. And they are free. The best way to learn is to dive in and use them. You don’t need courses or certifications

 

[mjromeo81]

I just wanted to know the resources and courses you took. I'm more curious to know what resources they use in foreign countries(overseas of my geography).

I agree that most university IT courses are far too theoretical. But the foundations are very useful and will always remain relevant.

The problem with university IT education is that most university researchers are a) not good teachers; and b) strongly dislike teaching and try to avoid it as much as possible.

Academics are not rewarded for teaching. The end-of-semester teaching surveys that students fill out count for nothing. Academics are rewarded for three things – applying for grants; being successful in getting grants; and publishing papers. As a result, academics don't think of themselves as teachers – they think of themselves as researchers as that is what they are paid to do and that is what their promotion/grant of tenure depends upon.

There's a great dichotomy between the attitudes of those inside universities (academics and some administrative staff) and those on the outside (the general public, including the vast majority of undergrad uni students). Those inside universities think that universities exist to do research, whereas those outside universities think that universities exist to educate students, hopefully so that they can find employment afterwards.

I think in IT my main tip would be learn how to learn - change is the only constant. Also, don't underestimate the importance of soft skills. Technical skills are easy to teach. Finding a candidate with the right attitude and willingness to learn is much harder.

I recommend reading this for anyone working in IT: https://www.kalzumeus.com/2011/10/28/dont-call-yourself-a-programmer/

My 3 year degree looked like this:

1st Year:
- IT Fundamentals (basics of web development, networking, OSI model)
- Introduction to C programming
- Critical Thinking (I took this philosophy subject as an elective)
- Intro to Statistics

- Information Systems (intro level Business Analyst type course, analysing customer requirements, etc.)
- Beginner Object-Oriented Programming (Java)
- Macroeconomics (I took this as an elective)
- Roman History (I took this as an elective - lots of electives in my 1st year to explore interests)

2nd Year:
- Intermediate Object-Oriented Programming (Java)
- Database System Fundamentals (Data Modelling, SQL, relational algebra)
- Network Engineering Fundamentals
- Discrete Mathematics

- Artificial Intelligence (LISP, Prolog)
- System Design & Engineering (UML modelling)
- Industry Enterprise Practices (latest fads in web dev, this course sucked)
- Information Systems Development (intermediate level Business Analyst type course)


3rd Year:
- Big Data (Hadoop, Apache Spark, AWS Web Services)
- Database Management Systems (SQL tuning, database optimisation, deep theoreticals in DBMS)
- System Design and Methodologies (more UML modelling)
- Data Warehouse (concepts and design)

- Metrics, Quality and Reliability (QA)
- Object-Oriented Application Development (more Java programming)
- Professional Environment (a course all about behaving ethically in IT - bit of a joke)
- Advanced Databases

 

[Lion]

I agree that most university IT courses are far too theoretical. But the foundations are very useful and will always remain relevant.

The problem with university IT education is that most university researchers are a) not good teachers; and b) strongly dislike teaching and try to avoid it as much as possible.

Academics are not rewarded for teaching. The end-of-semester teaching surveys that students fill out count for nothing. Academics are rewarded for three things – applying for grants; being successful in getting grants; and publishing papers. As a result, academics don't think of themselves as teachers – they think of themselves as researchers as that is what they are paid to do and that is what their promotion/grant of tenure depends upon.

There's a great dichotomy between the attitudes of those inside universities (academics and some administrative staff) and those on the outside (the general public, including the vast majority of undergrad uni students). Those inside universities think that universities exist to do research, whereas those outside universities think that universities exist to educate students, hopefully so that they can find employment afterwards.

I think in IT my main tip would be learn how to learn - change is the only constant. Also, don't underestimate the importance of soft skills. Technical skills are easy to teach. Finding a candidate with the right attitude and willingness to learn is much harder.

I recommend reading this for anyone working in IT: https://www.kalzumeus.com/2011/10/28/dont-call-yourself-a-programmer/

My 3 year degree looked like this:

1st Year:
- IT Fundamentals (basics of web development, networking, OSI model)
- Introduction to C programming
- Critical Thinking (I took this philosophy subject as an elective)
- Intro to Statistics

- Information Systems (intro level Business Analyst type course, analysing customer requirements, etc.)
- Beginner Object-Oriented Programming (Java)
- Macroeconomics (I took this as an elective)
- Roman History (I took this as an elective - lots of electives in my 1st year to explore interests)

2nd Year:
- Intermediate Object-Oriented Programming (Java)
- Database System Fundamentals (Data Modelling, SQL, relational algebra)
- Network Engineering Fundamentals
- Discrete Mathematics

- Artificial Intelligence (LISP, Prolog)
- System Design & Engineering (UML modelling)
- Industry Enterprise Practices (latest fads in web dev, this course sucked)
- Information Systems Development (intermediate level Business Analyst type course)


3rd Year:
- Big Data (Hadoop, Apache Spark, AWS Web Services)
- Database Management Systems (SQL tuning, database optimisation, deep theoreticals in DBMS)
- System Design and Methodologies (more UML modelling)
- Data Warehouse (concepts and design)

- Metrics, Quality and Reliability (QA)
- Object-Oriented Application Development (more Java programming)
- Professional Environment (a course all about behaving ethically in IT - bit of a joke)
- Advanced Databases

how much did all his cost you minus books and plus books thanks

 

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[Lion]

Get your soup drops

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lmao it's all sold out already. people that enjoy this are the same people who enjoy things like canned tuna or beef jerkey.

aka people that should be avoided by society

 

[ALC]

lmao it's all sold out already. people that enjoy this are the same people who enjoy things like canned tuna or beef jerkey.

aka people that should be avoided by society

Weak troll, canned tuna and beef jerky are completely fine to eat. Try harder next time.

 

[Lion]

canned tuna is disgusting. stop being poor and eat better fish.

beef jerkey is disgusting too.

 

[mjromeo81]

how much did all his cost you minus books and plus books thanks

For a Bachelor's Degree in Australia as a domestic student, I was on a Commonwealth Supported Place (CSP) so the government subsidised a large portion of my fees. I didn't have to pay anything upfront with HELP (Higher Education Loan Program).

The remaining "student contribution" for my degree was around $25k AUD (so around $8k per year) and that gets paid gradually through the tax system once your income reaches a certain threshold.

For IT subjects we didn't really use textbooks. There were some prescribed readings but it was easy to find a cheeky PDF copy from the web.

 

[Siamak]

Interesting!