What Are You Doing Right Now? (228 Viewers)

[Osman]

If its a genuine mistake it's a bizzare one. Like directly look at the kid and just ignore her multiple times. No other adult there to remind her during the moment either. The children next to her visibly confused.

Even more confusing when you consider the bizarre way they as an organisation handled it after.

Bureaucracy and PR focused is one thing, but this is a children's sporting event, not big IPO scared of libel big bussiness. Acording to that article Enron posted, they had multiple opportunities to reassure the family and the child at the time, make them feel part of the sporting community and rectify an unfortunate situation like this. Instead with held letter personally apologising, and just sent 2 world letter promptly saying its a mistake instead.

To the point a judge and mediator has to get involved. And make public statements and lie about what they did according to the mother, after the sitaution became viral year later.


The only understandable adult in this sitaution is the one that thought about the kid enough after the event ended, to hand her medal as she should been from the start. Defenitely teachable moment for the child. Only genuinely concerning part is the mother and family feeling for their safety enough to contact the police after this became viral.

 

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[.zero]

Halma halma

 

[ALC]

judge was helping the kid by putting a chip in her shoulder for future events. After all, she should be easily winning those events. Because she has more fast twitch muscles.

 

[swag]

What do you this one was about? Are curly fries coded racial language? https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/jack-box-employee-shoots-customers-045333220.html

Maybe Curly Fries was the name of the local drug dealer.

Wtf is nonsense?

Dozen of little girls there, EVERYONE gets participation medals. She looks straight at her, walks by her, the only black girl amongst the kids, goes on to the half dozen after her. Then runs out of medals, goes to get more, comes back, still looks at the confused little girls, and keeps handing out to the rest again.


Instead of see the possible discrimination (because how is it a mistake? She looked at her and ignored her multiple times), you utter that nonsense?


It's a small child in a sporting event that should feel safe and taken care of like the rest being made to feel like she doesn't belong (and you find it more likely a small child is a bitch over facing possible discrimination?).


It's peculiar this triggered you?

At the risk of start a race war, I do appreciate how Altair framed it. Pattern matching is what we do as humans. We are put in the maze as rats and seem surprised if there isn't cheese at the other end.

Because Altair is right that the heuristic mechanisms that are used as shortcuts to presume black people are more dangerous are similar to the mechanisms that baits people in a trap to presume that "therefore racism" is always involved when something involves race. That doesn't dismiss the internal beliefs of the observer -- whether a person who has been the victim of racism often enough to presume (and with very understandable reason) versus someone who has witnessed many occasions where context has been removed and editing has been employed to make an agenda go viral. I mean, we can't even agree if the dress is white and gold or blue and black.

We make these snap judgments because we humans are wired that way. One of the smartest people I know has said that there are no "human biases".... only "human heuristics". Meaning that human brains are wired to expend the least energy possible, so we come up with shortcuts and choose categorizations so our brains can move on to process the next thing and keep us alive. Most of those have helped us survive as a species. But when put in other modern contexts, or hijacked to effect, they produce all the wrong results and take us into ugly places.

Trouble is, you're right in that this is sadly the same denialist technique of people wearing Klan robes and hoods. My suspicion was that the response as you stated was racist. But I have enough self-doubt to know how frequently context is removed and someone is jacking my biases (or heuristics) to step back and say, "Well, I am only seeing what someone wants me to see, and I can't say I have 100% confidence based on the limited presented evidence and shared context."

Also in part because the dead rat smell of an 18-month-old video is hard to get out of my nostrils.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

You genuinely are a moron. litterally writing almost verbatim same deflection rhetorics the skinheads racist here in Sweden write whenever similar stuff comes up. Quick with whataboutism about crime stats in the US, when the topic is possibility of Irish black child being discriminated in a friggin sporting event.

It's either a mistake and oversight by the volunteer worker, but how? Looks straight at her multiple times and ignores her? Or its overt case of discrimination, which is unusual in this day and age, as Seven said actual racism tends to be more subtle.


Lets ignore for a second being cynical or jaded by shitty media or viral clicks 18 months later (they as organisation had 1 year to address it and more or less ignored the family until recently). And focus on the sitaution itself. Dozen white girls, 1 black child, everyone gets medals for their swimming but one. Is just extreme randomness she is the only child to be blatantly ignored in front of everyone?


Reasons you find more viable:

1. Little kid is a bitch

2. Her father slept with the wife of the organiser

3. All black people are violent (oh btw still wtf you genuine fucking moron).

4. Far far down the list and most likely impossible, the volunteer worker handing out the medals is an Irish bigot who seem confident enough in her job status to think she will get away with blatant discrimination of a child.


It's a teachable and unfortunate moment for the little kid either way, what's more concerning then this the family needing to contact the police because they feel threatened after this.

Literally verbatim, genuinely a moron! Man you do like your tautologies. Well i can tell you this, I might be a moron but I know better than to waste time on you today.
If one day, you can gain a firm grasp on your emotions, command of the english language, concept of hypotheticals, and ,most importantly, logical structure; we can pick this back up. Until then, knock yourself out calling people nazis and getting that dissonance frustration out, hope it helps

 

[Osman]

Literally verbatim, genuinely a moron! Man you do like your tautologies. Well i can tell you this, I might be a moron but I know better than to waste time on you today.
If one day, you can gain a firm grasp on your emotions, command of the english language, concept of hypotheticals, and ,most importantly, logical structure; we can pick this back up. Until then, knock yourself out calling people nazis and getting that dissonance frustration out, hope it helps

On to ignore list you go you little insecure full of hatred manchild.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

On to ignore list you go you little insecure full of hatred manchild.

Calm and rational was a tall order ey

 

[Seven]

If its a genuine mistake it's a bizzare one. Like directly look at the kid and just ignore her multiple times. No other adult there to remind her during the moment either. The children next to her visibly confused.

This part is what it does it for me.

Like, what possible way is there to explain this? Surely a 'mistake' is not what happened. She looks at the kid several times.

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[X Æ A-12]

judge was helping the kid by putting a chip in her shoulder for future events. After all, she should be easily winning those events. Because she has more fast twitch muscles.

Its good to develope a healthy skepticism of white people early as possible

 

[swag]

Calma, calma.

And as far as I am concerned, I am also irritated by how gymnastics medals can be used as a distraction to hide neighborhood redlining, voting rights abuses and racial gerrymandering, access to affordable healthcare, and reasonable access to healthy food.

 

[Seven]

I mean, it's pretty shit for any kid to be in that situation, but it does happen. I vividly remember missing out a couple of times as a kid in similar circumstances. Might explain why I pretty much hate everyone now.

I'd like to give the organisers/those involved the benefit of the doubt that it was a genuine mistake, especially considering that so many were in attendance and watching, if not it's pretty awful and brazen.

Ireland isn't the most ethnically diverse place but you'd have to be some sort of special cunt to do that on purpose.

But that's the other thing.

It's so over the top, so blatant that it almost becomes ridiculous.

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[ßöмßäяðîëя]

Kyle texted me to come in here and see what's going down.

 

[Seven]

Calma, calma.

And as far as I am concerned, I am also irritated by how gymnastics medals can be used as a smoke screen to hide neighborhood redlining, voting rights abuses and racial gerrymandering, access to affordable healthcare, and reasonable access to healthy food.

Systemic racism is not only more subtle, but also far worse than whatever that woman was doing and we should focus on resolving that rather than scolding an individual.

But, man, does it look weird.

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[Seven]

Kyle texted me to come in here and see what's going down.

We need a Nazi joke fast.

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[swag]

Systemic racism is not only more subtle, but also far worse than whatever that woman was doing and we should focus on resolving that rather than scolding an individual.

But, man, does it look weird.

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Wrong is wrong. But the reductive online grievance Olympics is another employed smoke screen not unlike how Big Money baited identity politics divisions to take the heat off from movements like Occupy.

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

Please don't hurt us, angry black man.

Don't assume his gender, he will become natively violent.

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What makes one discount the million other possibilities in this instance: maybe the kid is a bitch, maybe her dad slept with the wife of the guy organizing this... And cry racism so assuredly?

Maybe her dad killed Mike Pence in an alternate reality.

It is much more likely it's ACTIVE racism than it is either of the things you said.

That being said, I think it's almost always a passive, learned behavior.

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We need a Nazi joke fast.

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The only thing more Jewish than being Jewish is being a Quarter Jewish.

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Calma, calma.

And as far as I am concerned, I am also irritated by how gymnastics medals can be used as a distraction to hide neighborhood redlining, voting rights abuses and racial gerrymandering, access to affordable healthcare, and reasonable access to healthy food.

You see those new NC laws that were passed?

 

[GordoDeCentral]

We need a Nazi joke fast.

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I got better

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-n...pert-adam-britton-raped-tortured-killed-dogs/

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

@Seven

I presume by Nazi joke you meant a Nazistic-style joke. I know a lot of those, the ones about the Nazis I'll have to work on.

Maybe I should get some Pervitin to help me take a long walk through Poland.

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I got better

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-n...pert-adam-britton-raped-tortured-killed-dogs/

This doesn't touch what their Mr. Rogers did.

 

[Osman]

Calma, calma.

And as far as I am concerned, I am also irritated by how gymnastics medals can be used as a distraction to hide neighborhood redlining, voting rights abuses and racial gerrymandering, access to affordable healthcare, and reasonable access to healthy food.

I'm not sure why jaded and toxic American social issues discourse is applied to a singular childrens event in Ireland tho?

Not everything has to revolve around the psuedo culture wars sickness in the US. Too many overseas incident brought up in twitter is almost tried to be co opted by americans on it. When its completely uninteresting and usually irrelevant to the sitautions.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

Damn boys, what's got into you all today