What Are You Doing Right Now? (169 Viewers)

[swag]

Yeah I’ve begun to dislike the consumers more than the airlines lately

Yep. Entitlement is through the roof. More situations like this one over the weekend:

https://www.entrepreneur.com/busine...bandoned-on-remote-island-for-12-hours/458941

Plane makes an emergency landing on a remote island where none of the passengers have visas to walk around, they spend 12 hours in delays at the airport for the plane to get fixed and the crew to legally sleep, and they beef that they're being treated like abandoned zoo animals.

Not being fed for 12 hours is considered starvation conditions and having to sit in an airport for hours is being treated like roaches.

I used to think it was only Americans who felt entitled to never being inconvenienced. But it's now a global problem.

 

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[swag]

I don't get the hate on Ryanair. Not only do they provide cheap flights which is a positive for everyone involved

Including the residents near the local destination airport when Ryanair threatens to stop service unless the locals subsidize them with a financial shakedown? That's classic predatory tactics.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

Including the residents near the local destination airport when Ryanair threatens to stop service unless the locals subsidize them with a financial shakedown? That's classic predatory tactics.

Financial shakedown? It's the other way around pardner, Portuguese govt gives out billions of taxpayer money to failing companies like TAP and has to cover some of that by raising airport taxes. This is a direct hit at the Ryanair model. The reason you fly to remote stansted and not Heathrow or Gatwick is because the former has low airport taxes thus allowing jamila november to get to london for 25 euros. So it's really simple, the ryanair model, a very successful model which allowed millions who couldn't fly before to do so and greatly boosted tourism in many destinations, is not going to change their formula because joao libtard stalinao wants a 100% tax hike because fuck capitalism.

By the way i don't like flying Ryanair, and will pay more to fly with a conventional airline, but dont fucking complain about ryanair crowded lines or having to pay for everything when you bought your ticket for fucking 9 euros(plead guilty).

 

[swag]

Financial shakedown? It's the other way around pardner, Portuguese govt gives out billions of taxpayer money to failing companies like TAP and has to cover some of that by raising airport taxes. This is a direct hit at the Ryanair model. The reason you fly to remote stansted and not Heathrow or Gatwick is because the former has low airport taxes thus allowing jamila november to get to london for 25 euros. So it's really simple, the ryanair model, a very successful model which allowed millions who couldn't fly before to do so and greatly boosted tourism in many destinations, is not going to change their formula because joao libtard stalinao wants a 100% tax hike because fuck capitalism.

By the way i don't like flying Ryanair, and will pay more to fly with a conventional airline, but dont fucking complain about ryanair crowded lines or having to pay for everything when you bought your ticket for fucking 9 euros(plead guilty).

The latter part is true. But the Azores is an autonomous region of Portugal. They subsidize residents through their taxes. So they have cheaper airfares than I can get from the mainland.

But they don’t pay-to-play for furners, let alone mainlanders. Other reporting around here pretty much agreed Ryanair’s tactics were mafioso-inspired.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

The latter part is true. But the Azores is an autonomous region of Portugal. They subsidize residents through their taxes. So they have cheaper airfares than I can get from the mainland.

But they don’t pay-to-play for furners, let alone mainlanders. Other reporting around here pretty much agreed Ryanair’s tactics were mafioso-inspired.

the ryan "subsidy", if you can even call it that, that i am aware of is the paying of pre-hike tax rate. Is there anything else i am missing?

 

[swag]

You’re missing that the airline already had routes into the islands and then decided to renegotiate them by demanding more money from taxpayers.

 

[Osman]

Cheap flights is good thing, plenty of airlines had to drop prices to compete with them. but RyanAir were banned from the main Arlanda airport over here for years due to their predatory and extremely lacking of basic quality necessity.

Had to modernise and re evaluate their standards to basic levels to be allowed back into main airports again in Sweden. Was going in small hard to get to airports only until they changed.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

You’re missing that the airline already had routes into the islands and then decided to renegotiate them by demanding more money from taxpayers.

It seems you know even less than i do:

https://www.aviacionline.com/2023/07/ryanair-says-it-could-leave-the-azores-on-winter/

This is typical leftist envy fueled tactics to punish successful business models because they wait for it make money. No problem giving actual subsidies in billions to failing TAP, which ironically does serve those routes but it obviously can't do the job Ryanair does for the local economy.

Truly only a dead commie is a good one.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

Cheap flights is good thing, plenty of airlines had to drop prices to compete with them. but RyanAir were banned from the main Arlanda airport over here for years due to their predatory and extremely lacking of basic quality necessity.

Had to modernise and re evaluate their standards to basic levels to be allowed back into main airports again in Sweden. Was going in small hard to get to airports only until they changed.

Predatory how?

 

[swag]

It seems you know even less than i do:

https://www.aviacionline.com/2023/07/ryanair-says-it-could-leave-the-azores-on-winter/

This is typical leftist envy fueled tactics to punish successful business models because they wait for it make money. No problem giving actual subsidies in billions to failing TAP, which ironically does serve those routes but it obviously can't do the job Ryanair does for the local economy.

Truly only a dead commie is a good one.

Dude, the Azores last voted like 73% for Chega. That’s the opposite of leftists.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

Dude, the Azores last voted like 73% for Chega. That’s the opposite of leftists.

Everything you quoted is from leftist politicians

 

[Osman]

Predatory how?

Mainly employees conditions. Anti Union behaviour and generally being scummy with their pilots for a while. Sweden and Scandinavia pretty strict on that. So they had to modernise a bit to be allowed back post corona.

 

[swag]

I think it’s a bit rich for a company to demand a 0% global inflation rate and then claim the technicality that they’re not looking for handouts.

 

[Seven]

It seems you know even less than i do:

https://www.aviacionline.com/2023/07/ryanair-says-it-could-leave-the-azores-on-winter/

This is typical leftist envy fueled tactics to punish successful business models because they wait for it make money. No problem giving actual subsidies in billions to failing TAP, which ironically does serve those routes but it obviously can't do the job Ryanair does for the local economy.

Truly only a dead commie is a good one.

What job? Ryanair's pilots strike every other month so I'm pretty sure the wages Ryanair hands out are not exactly competitive. And then there's the consumer side. It has gotten so bad most people don't even consider Ryanair during the summer months, because there's no way of knowing if you'll ever really depart.

I almost always have sympathy for the employer. Employers get fucked on a daily basis in Europe and most employees are braindead babies who believe others should cater to their every whim even if they add no inherent value. But man, Ryanair just sucks all around.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

Mainly employees conditions. Anti Union behaviour and generally being scummy with their pilots for a while. Sweden and Scandinavia pretty strict on that. So they had to modernise a bit to be allowed back post corona.

I know like 5 pilots who worked at Ryan and a few flight attendants. The objective was always rack up as many hours as possible and move to Qatar or Emirates.

 

[Osman]

Yeah they are the fast food of airlines. So it's no prestige or big pay to working there (especially when they initially didnt cover pilot trainings huge fees) like the choices you mentioned elsewhere.

So it's mainly work as much as possible and dip. But for a while they made that hard on their employees with terrible working conditions. Til unions and airport authorities had to step in.

They are much better now with that from what I hear from people.



Either way no one deserves to be attacked with pies for their bussiness like that. That's just silly bs. Like you say it genuinely made working class people more likely and easier to travel.

 

[.zero]

I’ve flown EasyJet but not Ryanair. However, if the passenger scenes are anything like the circus gutter that are Spirit/Frontier/etc (haven’t flown with them either) then god help them all.

 

[Seven]

I’ve flown EasyJet but not Ryanair. However, if the passenger scenes are anything like the circus gutter that are Spirit/Frontier/etc (haven’t flown with them either) then god help them all.

I've only flown Ryanair from Belgium to Italy and vice versa and if I'm honest it was perfectly fine. It weren't the most comfortable flights, but they were definitely okay.

But there are so many strikes. Apparently today their pilots are striking once again in Charlerloi. I don't know how many strikes there have been this summer. Is it the third? Maybe the fourth? I have no idea. And it's not the first summer either. Like I said above, I generally side with employers because I think they're paying a lot in Belgium. But in the case of Ryanair clearly something is not right.

 

[.zero]

If Ryanair is considered a budget airline then mgmt is operating with the thinnest of margins by default. Meaning no one is getting paid well outside of said mgmt purportedly.

 

[swag]

I’ve flown EasyJet but not Ryanair. However, if the passenger scenes are anything like the circus gutter that are Spirit/Frontier/etc (haven’t flown with them either) then god help them all.

SleazyJet is another example. They too play airport fee arbitrage on time at the gate (which is why their flights often make passengers gather on the tarmac before crossing airport lanes to their planes). And when they're charging €29 for a flight from here to London, you particularly know airline fuel subsidies are a ridiculous holdover.

I've taken Frontier, and they're probably worse. But not as bad as Spirit, which is more like a casino with wings.