Seven

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Why is it an issue that a mentally ill sexual deviant is in constant contact with kids? Is that the question you are asking?
On what basis are you claiming the person is mentally ill or a sexual deviant? And even if that person is, would his condition have an impact on children?

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‘Can’ and ‘should’ are two different questions.
This is a slippery slope. If you make that distinction and exclude men from such rules, you'd have to exclude women from others too. And you wouldn't be able to do so based on an objective parameter ('can'), but you'd do so on an arbitrary moral one ('should').
 

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Seven

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I’m speaking as a father of a young child. This has nothing to do with equity, being woke.
My son is one year old and goes to daycare every day. Both men and women work there, though the men are vastly outnumbered and usually only part time. I'm more concerned with the standard of care he's getting than who is providing it.
 

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Don't have an issue with the trans folks at work but, yea, its weird to think of one supervising your kid...don't want to add to the labeling of them as "groomers" but I do think there is something a little off about anyone who would do that and there is a higher correlation with other "deviant"behaviors or mental illness associated with them than the normal population

Yea I'm glad they are liberated or whatever and don't need to hide but they also don't need to be working daycares...just like other folks with mental illnesses. I don't hate or blame schizos either but they shouldn't be managing kids

Hard to deny there is a bit of a creeping movement from LGBTQ to for some reason get in with kids. wtf is a kids drag show? come on for real? What kind of kool aid do you have to be drinking to take your child to a sexual performance just to have others think you are woke?

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    So what is your concern? Are you worried this person will show off his new penis to the children? Or, is it more likely the person is perfectly capable of doing the job and while 3 year-old children will most likely not even notice a difference, you are the uncomfortable one? Don't project your shit onto kids. They don't know what the fuck is going on. I can't remember anything before 5 years-old anyway. I don't remember what anyone looked like at my day care growing up.
    I believe that most people involved in that movement are people who are struggling with their own identity, who have problems fitting into society and most likely have some sexual frustrations too. I read an article about 3 weeks ago about some guy who was severely depressed since his teens, went into the transition, ended up regretting it, and now is stuck in this transformed body. And obviously his mental state didn’t improved.

    Probably I’d choose the conservative route. It’s hard to say that people should be denied certain jobs, society isn’t probably fully ready for it (as seen here, just a few comments show that people are very distant into finding comment ground on this matter), but in the meantime I’m also questioning why these specific people, knowing their decision still have a lot of stigma around it with many people not feeling comfortable with it, didn’t choose to be a teacher of 4 or 5 year olds but choose daycare instead.

    In my opinion there’s some risk involved and we’re hiring people for very sensitive jobs without a double check of a psychiatrist. And that counts for this but also giving people jobs involving politics, didn’t something went horribly wrong in the US with some transgender who had some important security position but was hired probably because he’s a transgender?

    Maybe it’s not nice to discuss this but in the end we’re talking about children who should be protected by all means of course.
     

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    Don't have an issue with the trans folks at work but, yea, its weird to think of one supervising your kid...don't want to add to the labeling of them as "groomers" but I do think there is something a little off about anyone who would do that and there is a higher correlation with other "deviant"behaviors or mental illness associated with them than the normal population

    Yea I'm glad they are liberated or whatever and don't need to hide but they also don't need to be working daycares...just like other folks with mental illnesses. I don't hate or blame schizos either but they shouldn't be managing kids

    Hard to deny there is a bit of a creeping movement from LGBTQ to for some reason get in with kids. wtf is a kids drag show? come on for real? What kind of kool aid do you have to be drinking to take your child to a sexual performance just to have others think you are woke?

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    Maybe there is in the US, I can't say I have witnessed much of that.

    While essentially I do think of transgenders as persons with a mental disorder (which is up for debate), I don't think you can put them on the same level as people with schizophrenia. That is a very serious disorder, which can cause people to commit acts of insanity. Transgenders have much more control over their actions.

    And while it is often assumed that transgenders are sexually deviant and thus more likely to harm children, I have not seen any evidence to corroborate this. And we all know we'd have seen it if it existed.
     

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    On what basis are you claiming the person is mentally ill or a sexual deviant? And even if that person is, would his condition have an impact on children?

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    This is a slippery slope. If you make that distinction and exclude men from such rules, you'd have to exclude women from others too. And you wouldn't be able to do so based on an objective parameter ('can'), but you'd do so on an arbitrary moral one ('should').

    On the basis of a fully functional biological male thinking they are a female. Would you trust someone who was convinced he was napoleon with any kind of responsibility, let alone the care of the most vulnerable elements of society? As for sexual deviance anything that strays from male female sex is by definition a deviance. Beyond the predatory risk of such situations, kids are sponges they will definitely take on a lot of what someone they interact with for hours.
     

    Seven

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    On the basis of a fully functional biological male thinking they are a female. Would you trust someone who was convinced he was napoleon with any kind of responsibility, let alone the care of the most vulnerable elements of society? As for sexual deviance anything that strays from male female sex is by definition a deviance. Beyond the predatory risk of such situations, kids are sponges they will definitely take on a lot of what someone they interact with for hours.
    A person believing to be Napoleon is very different from a person wanting to make changes to his body to have it conform to the person he or she wants to be. The latter does not have an altered vision of reality and is fully capable of understanding the consequences of his or her actions.

    Do I agree with this person?

    No, I do not. I personally do not believe it is wise to 'adjust' a fully functional genitourinary system. I think it causes more problems than it fixes and it wreaks havoc on an otherwise healthy body.

    But this does not mean I get to disqualify this person for a job he or she is realistically able to do.
     

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    Maybe there is in the US, I can't say I have witnessed much of that.

    While essentially I do think of transgenders as persons with a mental disorder (which is up for debate), I don't think you can put them on the same level as people with schizophrenia. That is a very serious disorder, which can cause people to commit acts of insanity. Transgenders have much more control over their actions.

    And while it is often assumed that transgenders are sexually deviant and thus more likely to harm children, I have not seen any evidence to corroborate this. And we all know we'd have seen it if it existed.
    Perhaps schizo was an extreme example and its not necessarily that I believe Trans are more sexually deviant more so that I believe they are generally, less stable than your average individual. far greater risk of suicide, depression, substance use, or other mental issues. They don't need to be groping kids to be poor choice as caregivers
     
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    Perhaps schizo was an extreme example and its not necessarily that I believe Trans are more sexually deviant more so that I believe they are generally, less stable than your average individual. far greater risk of suicide, depression, substance use, or other mental issues. They don't need to be groping kids to be poor choice as caregivers
    All of those issues affect Police Officers and Military members, and even some physicians. at even higher rates, are they not fit to work at a day care?
     
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    Totally random, but I have a collegue who is transgender. Sorry to say, even if I don't want to have an opinion on their appearance, but it is so weird. She looks like a man dressed up like a women. If someone makes a joke she is directly attacked and playing like a victim. I can barely take someone serious with a responsible job looking like a men dressed up in a dress. The woke generation obligate us to find them normal, but seriously I can't. They can do what they want I don't bother, but if you have a responsible job you need to take your job serious. How the fuck can I take that serious? A doctor cannot work in a tracksuit, because it is not appropiate in their function, but If you are a transgender we should all accept that?

    Woke generation is a really big big problem. They are all talking about being inclusive and 'everyone is the same'. If you don't like it you can't say because they will counter you with being not open minded. The real problem is that your own opinion on same things being limited by them. They call it freedom and everyone needs the same acceptance. But my opinion would not be accepted? Politicians are helping them with this, making people mouthdead. They choose what your opinion needs to be otherwise you are a close minded idiot. Some people who fled from communist countries are saying this reminds them of communism. Your opinion is wrong if it isn't theirs, and they are indoctrinating it on litteraly every talkshow. They woke-thing is the biggest paradox on earth lol. Saying someone is close minded becaus you are open to everything, but If it is not their opinion you should shut the fuck up and listen to them because I am close minded. That's called an opinion, something everyone should have and you don't have to agree it.

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