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Yeah, we were joking about power of marketing, and my cousin from US starting telling us about this. We refused to believe it's an actual thing over there.

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It isn't. Just a few nuts in San Francisco and some techies who want a new trend to jump on.

The guy who made the Juicero is getting on it should tell you all you need to know.
 

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It all depends on your budget/wages. Plus peoples mind, as there are majority who like to spend way too much only to be notice and to fill the emptiness that's inside.
I get that. Though I do like to wear nice clothes. I think it adds a bit of confidence and you just feel better wearing nice stuff. But I do make sure not to buy too much, because a huge wardrobe only becomes a burden at some point.

As for your budget, I think an important factor is deciding what you find important. Belgians care a lot about cars. It's insane just how many people have a very nice car here. Personally I'd much rather invest extra money in a house. Over time cars depreciate crazy fast. But obviously that means my budget for a car is small.

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Property is where everyone should invest in if they’re smart.

Thankfully there aren’t many smart people that are smart about their finances so that’s good for the few of us that are.

I guess what I’m saying is that we do need dumb people of all economic statuses.


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Yeah, we were joking about power of marketing, and my cousin from US starting telling us about this. We refused to believe it's an actual thing over there.

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Sadly, as Kyle points out, it is a thing. But localized to only idiots in San Franciscos and some techies.

In this era of social media and fake news propagation causing the crumbling of democracy and inciting genocide, there are a lot of folks who are calling for more media literacy. I have to side a bit with Danah Boyd on this one: media literacy and the empowerment to question things is part of the problem, and not the solution. Too many clowns in tech now believe they are omnipotent and smarter than science. This includes Steve Jobs skipping a perfectly treatable state-of-the-art medical regimen for his pancreatic cancer and instead pulling a whole new protocol out of his ass of eating nothing but peas for months... and dying from it. It includes anti-vaxxer nut jobs. And it includes the raw water tards.

I get that. Though I do like to wear nice clothes. I think it adds a bit of confidence and you just feel better wearing nice stuff. But I do make sure not to buy too much, because a huge wardrobe only becomes a burden at some point.

As for your budget, I think an important factor is deciding what you find important. Belgians care a lot about cars. It's insane just how many people have a very nice car here. Personally I'd much rather invest extra money in a house. Over time cars depreciate crazy fast. But obviously that means my budget for a car is small.

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One thing I respect about people in Europe is that they actually take pride in themselves and how they look. Maybe not the Italian mamas-boy style where the guy spends two hours in front of a mirror before going out. But unlike the U.S., it's unthinkable to go out in pajamas or sweatpants and not be embarrassed by it.

Property is where everyone should invest in if they’re smart.

Thankfully there aren’t many smart people that are smart about their finances so that’s good for the few of us that are.

I guess what I’m saying is that we do need dumb people of all economic statuses.


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Dumb people fuel the smart ones. The challenge is when you find an opportunity to capitalize on them. I've been trying to work an angle on how to profit off of climate change deniers for years, but nothing has come up solid enough for me.

But even property is suspect. And not just because all land on earth is only on lease with climate change, but even the persistence of government rule or even the cost of maintenance have created enough dilapidated, abandoned properties around the world as ample evidence of how it's not a universal profit-maker.
 

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I get that. Though I do like to wear nice clothes. I think it adds a bit of confidence and you just feel better wearing nice stuff. But I do make sure not to buy too much, because a huge wardrobe only becomes a burden at some point.

As for your budget, I think an important factor is deciding what you find important. Belgians care a lot about cars. It's insane just how many people have a very nice car here. Personally I'd much rather invest extra money in a house. Over time cars depreciate crazy fast. But obviously that means my budget for a car is small.

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People over here suffer from a not given verification. So people dress really good and have amazing phones. Imagine how crazy is to see people in my and in your country have same or similar phones. You guys have 2000 euros wages and we have 250. People here give 500-800e for phones. Just imagine if people in your country worked for 2 months in order to buy a phone. Or hell, even 3 months. It's sooooo rare to see people have shitty phones. It's almost as it's rare to see a genius. I think that's pretty sick (in a bad way).

But yeah, I do agree that wearing (better) clothes makes you feel better and have more confidence. But it's not just about the price, but style, and finding stuff that suits you. I also think majority of people spend a whole lot of money on clothes, yet don't dress well. One could argue how it's a different taste but I'd say it's just a horribile taste (hell, who can cheer for Inter/Milan?).

Investing in your house is pretty great. I too would rather focus money on that.
 

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People over here suffer from a not given verification. So people dress really good and have amazing phones. Imagine how crazy is to see people in my and in your country have same or similar phones. You guys have 2000 euros wages and we have 250. People here give 500-800e for phones. Just imagine if people in your country worked for 2 months in order to buy a phone. Or hell, even 3 months. It's sooooo rare to see people have shitty phones. It's almost as it's rare to see a genius. I think that's pretty sick (in a bad way).
wtf that's ridiculous.

But i've noticed oddly similar situation in impoverished parts of Mexico where people who have very little somehow have a big screen tv, playstation, speakers etc.

Come to think of it saw the same thing here when I did community service for a food bank. People with nice clothes, a nice car with after market rims showing up with four kids to pick up donated food.

Some people have no concept of how to spend or save money
 
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Leave bro

Go somewhere that allows your to earn at equivalence. If you can’t compete economically then there are crippling effects during the inflationary periods.
If I leave... nobody will fight the corruption. I'm like a Calimero, shouting and waking people.

But no, I wouldn't say it's easy to leave. Just those short 3 months trip where you have to return. I'm not sure if I heard it right, though, but I think people will more easily leave for Germany come January. Germans must be happy lol. Majority of our nurses left the country too.
 

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I said a hip hop the hippie the hippie
To the hip hip hop and you don't stop

wtf that's ridiculous.

But i've noticed oddly similar situation in impoverished parts of Mexico where people who have very little somehow have a big screen tv, playstation, speakers etc.

Come to think of it saw the same thing here when I did community service for a food bank. People with nice clothes, a nice car with after market rims showing up with four kids to pick up donated food.

Some people have no concept of how to spend or save money
Before smart phones it was dem urban types driving Cadillac El Dorados but living under freeway overpasses. :rndh:
 

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