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Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
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As I mentioned, I think it's totally foreign to think people can relate to it. We can't. I have no clue what it's like to wake up feeling like I am a woman in a man's body.

That said, at least as mentally disturbing for me are the people who can only react to those people with hostility. As if the guy who wakes up thinking he's a woman in a man's body did so as a personal affront to insult some random dude on the subway who freaks out at the sight and wants to beat him for it. Not only can you not condone that kind of physical reaction, it suggests some big time insecurity about yourself on top of that.
This is a very difficult debate and it has become very toxic in recent years.

First of all, South Park has a perfect episode about this. People aren't heroes because they are transgender. In fact the only thing they are that someone else is not, is simply transgender.

Personally I think it would be wonderful if we would treat it as a disorder and not as a choice. I'm not talking about stigmatising these people, but about accepting it for what it is. There is a mismatch between brain and body. It's not about choice or expressing yourself, it's because you have a problem that needs fixing. The same way a diabetic needs treatment.

This being said, the question imo remains whether it is the body or the brain that needs fixing. I personally don't know enough about the issue to have a worthwhile opinion either way.

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This is a very difficult debate and it has become very toxic in recent years.

First of all, South Park has a perfect episode about this. People aren't heroes because they are transgender. In fact the only thing they are that someone else is not, is simply transgender.

Personally I think it would be wonderful if we would treat it as a disorder and not as a choice. I'm not talking about stigmatising these people, but about accepting it for what it is. There is a mismatch between brain and body. It's not about choice or expressing yourself, it's because you have a problem that needs fixing. The same way a diabetic needs treatment.

This being said, the question imo remains whether it is the body or the brain that needs fixing. I personally don't know enough about the issue to have a worthwhile opinion either way.

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And that’s how you piss of the trannies.
 

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This is a very difficult debate and it has become very toxic in recent years.

First of all, South Park has a perfect episode about this. People aren't heroes because they are transgender. In fact the only thing they are that someone else is not, is simply transgender.

Personally I think it would be wonderful if we would treat it as a disorder and not as a choice. I'm not talking about stigmatising these people, but about accepting it for what it is. There is a mismatch between brain and body. It's not about choice or expressing yourself, it's because you have a problem that needs fixing. The same way a diabetic needs treatment.

This being said, the question imo remains whether it is the body or the brain that needs fixing. I personally don't know enough about the issue to have a worthwhile opinion either way.

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Identity politics makes people celebrate the dumbest shit.
 

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And that’s how you piss of the trannies.
I know. And it's stupid. I mean, clearly it's an issue when you have the wrong fucking body for your gender. Either you accept it as a disease / disorder or you don't. But if you don't, you can't be expected to be taken seriously, because you're denying an obvious reality.

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Funny you bring up south park because a few years back they had an episode which wouldve
Nah. This is about Caitlin Jenner being so heroic and brave.

And a shitty driver who kills people.

Though I do find it odd that in India you can now legally eat a dick, but eat a cow and you might be burned alive.
Sounds like a come from behind victory
 

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I know. And it's stupid. I mean, clearly it's an issue when you have the wrong fucking body for your gender. Either you accept it as a disease / disorder or you don't. But if you don't, you can't be expected to be taken seriously, because you're denying an obvious reality.

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Out of all the barely there psychological diagnosis we’ve come up with, you’d think think they’d not hesitate to slap some research on the trannies.
 

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People should not be assholes and hate people who are transgender and wish them physical harm...but there is no denying that it is a mental disorder and these people do need help. But unfortunately saying stuff like this makes you the asshole in modern societies.
 
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