What Are You Doing Right Now? (264 Viewers)

[Seven]

Are you vegan or know intimately one who is?

Quick question: if we manage to create lab meat that is just as tasteful as that of an actual animal and you eat this exclusively, would you be considered vegan?

 

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[Quetzalcoatl]

Quick question: if we manage to create lab meat that is just as tasteful as that of an actual animal and you eat this exclusively, would you be considered vegan?

Made from animal cells? They'd be probably call it cruelty-free meat.

 

[Red]

December fucking 1st. This is just nuts, where the hell and how is this time flying so fast!?

I literally didn't even feel this year, let alone the previous month.

Better get a doctor to examine your Shatner's Bassoon.

You haven't been taking cake have you?

 

[GordoDeCentral]

Quick question: if we manage to create lab meat that is just as tasteful as that of an actual animal and you eat this exclusively, would you be considered vegan?

No, because in that case you can't pretend you are better than everyone else

 

[Seven]

No, because in that case you can't pretend you are better than everyone else

Good point.

 

[Red]

Quick question: if we manage to create lab meat that is just as tasteful as that of an actual animal and you eat this exclusively, would you be considered vegan?

Morally no.

Practically yes.

 

[Seven]

Morally no.

Practically yes.

Why not morally? You're still choosing to eat the lab meat instead.

 

[Red]

Why not morally? You're still choosing to eat the lab meat instead.

In the same way I don't consider people who wear fake fur to be in a particulrly good moral spot.

 

[campionesidd]

I love the account on YouTube who goes by various names such as ItaliansRNotWhite and ItaliansRHookNosed rofl and makes troll videos about Italians and their supposed African/Arab/Jewish roots. Epic responses on the videos too.

Aren't Italians in the North mostly like light haired and have light eyes? Spaniards and Portuguese seem less 'white' to me than Italians do. But then again, whiteness isn't even an actual thing.

 

[pitbull]

Are you vegan or know intimately one who is?

I'm a vegetarian bordering veganism at times, same as my wife. My sister and her husband are full time vegans. I've always found puzzling the hate for vegetarians/vegans and just wanted to find out what's behind it, you seem like a guy capable of thinking so I asked.

 

[Seven]

In the same way I don't consider people who wear fake fur to be in a particulrly good moral spot.

Aren't Italians in the North mostly like light haired and have light eyes? Spaniards and Portuguese seem less 'white' to me than Italians do. But then again, whiteness isn't even an actual thing.

Not really tbh. Zambrotta is from Como for example, while Cannavaro is from Naples. And they're hardly an exception.

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I'm a vegetarian bordering veganism at times, same as my wife. My sister and her husband are full time vegans. I've always found puzzling the hate for vegetarians/vegans and just wanted to find out what's behind it, you seem like a guy capable of thinking so I asked.

This:

No, because in that case you can't pretend you are better than everyone else

 

[pitbull]

This:

That can't be the reason. I mean, yeah, there are fanatics and crazy activists who piss off everyone, but how many vegetarians/vegans from your friend circle go around telling people how they're better than everyone else? A very cynic and simply untrue assumption

 

[GordoDeCentral]

I'm a vegetarian bordering veganism at times, same as my wife. My sister and her husband are full time vegans. I've always found puzzling the hate for vegetarians/vegans and just wanted to find out what's behind it, you seem like a guy capable of thinking so I asked.

Simply because vegans attach moral highground to an unhealthy dietary choice, unless you take supplements which makes the whole affair even more bizarre on the ridiculousness scale. Additionally, because of the strictness of the regimen it makes social interaction between vegans and non vegans even more difficult thus furthering the divide. And finally, some good old anecdotal evidence, every vegan i met was an insufferable cunt.


Fyi i am referring strictly to vegans, not vegetarians. The two are clearly distinct.

 

[Seven]

That can't be the reason. I mean, yeah, there are fanatics and crazy activists who piss off everyone, but how many vegetarians/vegans from your friend circle go around telling people how they're better than everyone else?

It's usually their entire demeanour that makes it sort of obvious. I often get the same vibe from LGBTQ+-whatever activists.

If someone is vegan though and doesn't look down on others because they eat meat, I couldn't care less. I definitely understand that someone might find the arguments to become vegan persuasive enough.

 

[pitbull]

1. Simply because vegans attach moral highground to an unhealthy dietary choice, 2. unless you take supplements which makes the whole affair even more bizarre on the ridiculousness scale. 3. Additionally, because of the strictness of the regimen it makes social interaction between vegans and non vegans even more difficult thus furthering the divide. And finally, some good old anecdotal evidence, every vegan i met was an insufferable cunt.

first one is also an anecdotal evidence since there is no official vegan opinion, it's a personal choice on what to consume not some kind of cult with leaders.

the second one I don't find bizarre, if you don't want to consume animals/their products based on ethical choice, it's only logical you want to take care of your health by taking supplements. if you're arguing it's super-healthy and at the same time taking supplements then it's bizarre, yes.

third one probably depends on how flexible said people are

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It's usually their entire demeanour that makes it sort of obvious. I often get the same vibe from LGBTQ+-whatever activists.

If someone is vegan though and doesn't look down on others because they eat meat, I couldn't care less. I definitely understand that someone might find the arguments to become vegan persuasive enough.

In my personal experience as a vegetarian and seriously considering veganism most looking down is happening in the opposite direction actually, it's a lot more challenging socially to be a vegetarian/vegan than to be a meat-eater

 

[X Æ A-12]

I have vegans friends who are not at all insufferable cunts. Not everyone who is vegan is like that, I've gone Turkey hunting with two of them.

They will fuck an animal up, just think that mass meat production is not sustainable or something like that. They don't ever bring it up so I'm not totally sure of the reasons.

cuntish vegans are generally the girls doing it because they think its trendy or they want to lose weight or anyone from Davis, they suddenly get some massive ego about how amazing they are

in my experience annoying vegans would be just annoying if they were eating meat too. Its just one more thing to hate about them

 

[DAiDEViL]

I'm a vegetarian bordering veganism at times, same as my wife. My sister and her husband are full time vegans. I've always found puzzling the hate for vegetarians/vegans and just wanted to find out what's behind it, you seem like a guy capable of thinking so I asked.

Same

Only thing that holds me back is that i need cheese on a pizza.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

first one is also an anecdotal evidence since there is no official vegan opinion, it's a personal choice on what to consume not some kind of cult with leaders.

the second one I don't find bizarre, if you don't want to consume animals/their products based on ethical choice, it's only logical you want to take care of your health by taking supplements. if you're arguing it's super-healthy and at the same time taking supplements then it's bizarre, yes.

third one probably depends on how flexible said people are

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In my personal experience as a vegetarian and seriously considering veganism most looking down is happening in the opposite direction actually, it's a lot more challenging socially to be a vegetarian/vegan than to be a meat-eater

So ethically you should hurt yourself to not hurt animals? Should we also have lions and other carnivores on supplements so they shouldn't hurt other animals?

 

[DAiDEViL]

Once Lions start to rear 10 gazelles in a room the size of my bedroom we should do so.

 

[Seven]

So ethically you should hurt yourself to not hurt animals? Should we also have lions and other carnivores on supplements so they shouldn't hurt other animals?

Though humans are an animal species, I think that's a comparison we can't make. Our self-awareness and intelligence means we are in fact the only species that is even able to ask the question if it's okay to hurt and eat other animals. Lions aren't capable of ethical behaviour. They just do.

I agree with the first part though. Like I said before, I will always go with human beings over animals. If that means animals are sacrificed to feed humans, so be it.