They seem to have a weak generation of turkish players plus have had this schizo rule of amount of foreigners they allow to be starting at same time that kind of seemed to hamstrung them a little. Plus the obvious lack of real quality they can attract from overseas. Yeah kind of made it more of a retirement place more and more. But still would play there for the football more then US, even if the US is defenitely more interesting place to live if the choice was based on that. But as said, you are pretty much forgotten/become irrelevant if you play in MLS at a competetive period of your career. Like, I like him alot, but who is Giovinco in the football world right now? Nobody. While Turkey based players get to face the best in CL, and even kick out a big team or two, as fucking Sneijder did to us.