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Yeah, the thyroid thing always seems to "come with". My doc put me on thyroid pills almost immediately after I was diagnosed. You collect a few medications in a hurry, and it can be a shock to the system when you might be the type -- like me -- that never felt dependent on anything like before. Then you're pretty much propped alive by the world's drug delivery system.

Yeah, when I was diagnosed, my Type I work buddy took a blood sample and put me to his meter just because he had a hunch. I registered over the meter's range, which meant I was >600mg/dL. My doctors said that I was probably so insanely high that it actually did a service to keep me out of the hospital at the time. Weird.

But getting that first insulin shot to get me back to "normal" was a relief...

The insulin thing is a drag, no question. And I'm really sorry to hear about your diagnosis. And while there's no guarantee what you go through will be like what I did, the good news from my experience is that there's an eventual transition. Not to overly simplify it, but you end up picking up new health maintenance habits that -- when handled as well as can be -- can be a little like having to brush and floss your teeth more often.

The hardest thing I had to face in your situation was even just the mental identity issues ... i.e., who am I and what does it mean to identify myself as a diabetic, which seemed totally alien at the time. You'll get through it though. Happy to PM, phone chat, etc., any time.

(Btw, Sergio, King of Kings, is much in a similar boat.)
Yes, i am... was that type. Can't be anymore, as you said, no choice. The drugs i can deal with, same with being that healthy food guy. But it kinda kills your social life, doesn't it? No more drinking which pretty much means no more parties, bbq, and whatever social thing that involves alcohol and crap food.

But then again, do i want to live or what, it's my choice and I'm sure it'll become a habit, a few years from now i won't even realize the change i had to go through.

The only thing that scares me a LOT is down the road, when i'm older. Once you know you're diabetic you have a bigger probability of ending up in a hospital bed with some serious issues. I guess it depends on what i do from now on anyways.

Thanks, man. Let's see how i deal with it this week and what the doctor says after that. I appreciate your help and be sure i'll bother you with questions when i'm uncertain about things. :D
 

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Yes, i am... was that type. Can't be anymore, as you said, no choice. The drugs i can deal with, same with being that healthy food guy. But it kinda kills your social life, doesn't it? No more drinking which pretty much means no more parties, bbq, and whatever social thing that involves alcohol and crap food.
I'm not your doctor, but that sounds like bullcrap to me. I've had Type I diabetes for nearly 20 years and have managed it well enough where my docs say I'm doing great. And I haven't stopped my usual drinking, parties, crap food.

The thing is that now you have to plan for it, where as before you were able to just roll with it more. It wasn't until this year that I truly understood the primary reason for why they discourage diabetics from drinking. It seems to have to do with interfering with your own ability to know when your glucose levels are low, etc.

I can see how that can be dangerous if you drink too much. But if you're pretty rational, and good enough so that you don't always have to worry about someone else driving, I don't see myself giving up alcohol anytime soon. :D

The only thing that scares me a LOT is down the road, when i'm older. Once you know you're diabetic you have a bigger probability of ending up in a hospital bed with some serious issues. I guess it depends on what i do from now on anyways.
Like I said, almost 20 years with it now, and I've managed pretty well. Depends on the person, though. Doctors tend to like me because I get the science and I understand the discipline and importance that comes with it. But to be honest, it really hasn't changed much of what I eat or what I drink for the most part. I don't drink fruit juices or non-diet sodas much anymore, but even then there are exceptions because I keep them around for "medical purposes" to jack up my glucose levels when needed.

Take a breath. You'll get through it. :D
 
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I'm not your doctor, but that sounds like bullcrap to me. I've had Type I diabetes for nearly 20 years and have managed it well enough where my docs say I'm doing great. And I haven't stopped my usual drinking, parties, crap food.

The thing is that now you have to plan for it, where as before you were able to just roll with it more. It wasn't until this year that I truly understood the primary reason for why they discourage diabetics from drinking. It seems to have to do with interfering with your own ability to know when your glucose levels are low, etc.

I can see how that can be dangerous if you drink too much. But if you're pretty rational, and good enough so that you don't always have to worry about someone else driving, I don't see myself giving up alcohol anytime soon. :D



Like I said, almost 20 years with it now, and I've managed pretty well. Depends on the person, though. Doctors tend to like me because I get the science and I understand the discipline and importance that comes with it. But to be honest, it really hasn't changed much of what I eat or what I drink for the most part. I don't drink fruit juices or non-diet sodas much anymore, but even then there are exceptions because I keep them around for "medical purposes" to jack up my glucose levels when needed.

Take a breath. You'll get through it. :D
See, that's why it helps me to hear other people's testimonies. For now i'll cut everything just until i find out how it works, how my body deals with it. Eventually i'll be learning what i can and can't do. The thing is i have to control my blood sugar first so i can balance it out.

Tonight it was over 200 but my doctor said it takes a while for the meds to kick in and if after 3 days with me eating right and taking the meds when supposed to, it's still much higher then i should worry.

But like i said, i'm still a apprentice, a Padoin almost :D to consider not following the diet fully. One step at a time. Although, fuck i'm hungry.

Oh and I bought some sweet stuff for that purpose, it'll come in handy when i start exercising again. She told me orange juice is good also.
 

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Exercise is great. It's a natural way to get sort of an insulin equivalent without having to take the insulin. Not to mention the other health advantages.

It's s shitty health situation to be in. One thing I would recommend is trying to find the silver lining -- the "opportunity" -- behind it where you can though. For example, with me it was a reminder that I was not going to live on this earth forever, so I took more risks in changing careers, traveling the world, etc. All that was a good outcome. I would have lived a lot more safely and, well, boring if not for having experienced that.
 

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The only thing that scares me a LOT is down the road, when i'm older. Once you know you're diabetic you have a bigger probability of ending up in a hospital bed with some serious issues. I guess it depends on what i do from now on anyways.
Sorry about the diagnosis. My dad got it when he was 55 years old & lived with it for 18 years. Managed it pretty well too. Hope that helps a little.
 

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@CrimsonianKing

It's all about caloric and carb intake as well. The most common myth is that you can no longer eat anything with sugar in it, when in fact, some of the items that contain sugar substitutes such as Aspartame can actually be more harmful than natural sugar, because at the end of the day, the more natural and fresh food products that you eat, the better your body will feel, and the more manageable your blood sugar can be.

You just need to be careful as to what types of sugars you put in your body, and please make sure that it is moderation. Bananas are a great source of natural sugar, and their high potassium count is great for blood sugar control.

Stick to the script in regards to your medications. Do your best not to miss them for anything, regardless of where you are, or what you might be doing. You're doctor is correct when he says that it can take a few days for it to take effect, but being on a regular routine and then skipping a day or so can put you back at square one a lot quicker than you realize. What I would also do in your case, is supplement your medications with diabetic multivitamins (Available at Target), and a Diabetic supplement pack that is available at GNC that I use as well, as it contains such items as fish oil pills and cinnamon, which, ironically, is also great in controlling your blood sugar)

Do this now, before you become insulin dependent, because if that happens, well, I hate to tell you this, you are on it for life. I am currently on 1 type of insulin injection and 3 types of diabetic medication, and unfortunately I will be on the insulin for the rest of my days.


Sometimes, it can really be as simple as diet and exercise. I wish that I had taken my own advice, but certain things in life can lead you to make bad choices, and in my case, it was health and diet choices, and I ballooned back up to 274 pounds. Granted, I'm nearly 6'4", but that is 40-45 pounds more than what I usually am, so I had to do, again, what Greg had mentioned to you. I had to take accountability for my actions and do something about it, so in my case, I hired a nutritionist and a personal trainer, and in 2 weeks doing both, I have lost 4 1/2 pounds, so I am on the right track. But the reason why I am saying this to you is not to speak of myself, or to turn this into a conversation about me, but to serve as a cautionary tale that if you don't take care of it now, or if you do take care of it, but decide that you want to go off track, that it only gets harder to get to the place where you need to be.

Make smart choices as to what you eat, and realize that what you may think is good for you and what you feel that you should avoid, could actually be the opposite. Check the food labels for calories and carbs, even moreso than sugar. I have a fitness app on my phone that is called MyFitnessPal, and my trainer set it up for me, but she told me that anyone can set it up, to obtain certain weight, body fat, caloric intake, sugar intake, basically anything that you want to do.

As important as blood sugar levels are, the more important level in your body is called the A1C level. Basically, and I may not be entirely accurate in my paraphrasing of what it is, is that your A1C level is an aggregate of the percentage of sugar that your body has during a 3 month span. Normal is 7.0. At one point earlier this year it was at 12.6 for me, which is extremely dangerous. And that isn't something that you can cram for, like an exam, in the hopes of getting that level down 2-3 days before your scheduled blood work. It doesn't work that way. You can't cheat on that test.


It is a shock to the system, both physically and emotionally, but you'll be fine. Just find a course of action and stick to it.

You want to do a lot of cardio, and exercises that involve your quads. That will pump the most blood through your heart and really get it pumping, and you will get a great nights sleep as a result, because the proper amount of rest is also vital to maintaining a healthy blood sugar level.

Life can be really cruel sometimes, but you get back up after being knocked down, and kick life in the balls, and move on.

Hope this helps
 
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@King of Kings thanks, my friend. Both you and @swag have been extremely helpful, you've no idea.

Today was my first day on my new schedule, so far so good. Levels went down close to acceptable. I took leave from work, undefinitely. So i'll try my best to eat right and exercise so by next week i'll have this thing controlled as it should be. If all goes well i won't need insulin until later in life. I'll have to watch my weight as well as i don't want to look like the walking dead, i lost too much already and as i said i'm far from obese.

I'm making mental notes and writing down some of your advices. Oh and my A1C level was 13.5, hopefully i'll achieve my goal of getting it down to 7 in the next months. I'm off to jog a bit. Again, thank you.
 

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@King of Kings thanks, my friend. Both you and @swag have been extremely helpful, you've no idea.

Today was my first day on my new schedule, so far so good. Levels went down close to acceptable. I took leave from work, undefinitely. So i'll try my best to eat right and exercise so by next week i'll have this thing controlled as it should be. If all goes well i won't need insulin until later in life. I'll have to watch my weight as well as i don't want to look like the walking dead, i lost too much already and as i said i'm far from obese.

I'm making mental notes and writing down some of your advices. Oh and my A1C level was 13.5, hopefully i'll achieve my goal of getting it down to 7 in the next months. I'm off to jog a bit. Again, thank you.
I'm here for you if you need me. You know that. Even if we haven't played Destiny together in over a month.

Greg can most likely be a great point of references when you practice discipline and commitment, whereas I, on the other hand, can be a useful source of information if/when you stumble and fall, and what you need to do to refocus.


We can do this together.
 

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