Ford Prefect

Senior Member
May 28, 2009
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Looks like they just wiped out all English. :rolleyes: Bunch of Wikipedia retards think that the U.S. has only English-speakers and that English speakers only live in the U.S.

If they only used their site, maybe they wouldn't be so retarded.

Meanwhile, some Latino in the U.S. is reading away in Spanish without a care in the world.

Morons.
Somewhat missing the point. oh well.
 

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Nzoric

Grazie Mirko
Jan 16, 2011
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Hopefully. Because it's freaking retarded.
I agree. It's nice to put the power to shut down just about any website in the world in the hands of international businesses. I'm sure that won't lead to any abuse.'

edit: But if it does pass, it's going to be quite fun to see the trolling commence. The guys at Reddit are planning something big, Anonymous are going to lash out too, and lets not forget the meme potential of this move. The biggest troll gun ever.
 

Nzoric

Grazie Mirko
Jan 16, 2011
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I like that the people who are going to decide whether or not to pass this law are all unable to open their own e-mails, yet they are going to decide the future of TEH INTERWEBZ - under massive influence of lobbyists. The world is a beautiful place and I feel like blowing it up sometimes :p
 

Ford Prefect

Senior Member
May 28, 2009
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For shame that their only real justification for this bill is the film industries inabillity to move with the times and adopt the potential that the internet offers. The music industry was in crisis but they have adapted to the internet, the way the film industry can adapt is simple - on release date it should be available to purchase on dvd, download, blu-ray, subcription tv & in the cinema - that way people can chose how they want to see it and they dont have to stop people who love going to cinema (like me) by rolling out anti-piracy measures like 3D.
 

Nzoric

Grazie Mirko
Jan 16, 2011
37,877
For shame that their only real justification for this bill is the film industries inabillity to move with the times and adopt the potential that the internet offers. The music industry was in crisis but they have adapted to the internet, the way the film industry can adapt is simple - on release date it should be available to purchase on dvd, download, blu-ray, subcription tv & in the cinema - that way people can chose how they want to see it and they dont have to stop people who love going to cinema (like me) by rolling out anti-piracy measures like 3D.
Good point. Although I don't even buy my music. I support the bands I like with other merchandise, in Denmark - if an artist sells 1 album over the internet valued at 20EU, the artist himself gets (if it's a bad record deal) 1 EU and (if it's a good record deal) 3 EU. Fuck me if I'm paying Sony BMG 18 EU per CD I buy.
 

Ford Prefect

Senior Member
May 28, 2009
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Good point. Although I don't even buy my music. I support the bands I like with other merchandise, in Denmark - if an artist sells 1 album over the internet valued at 20EU, the artist himself gets (if it's a bad record deal) 1 EU and (if it's a good record deal) 3 EU. Fuck me if I'm paying Sony BMG 18 EU per CD I buy.
Bands only raelly make money when they tour and on merch. Radiohead released there last album on a "you chose what you pay" basis - you could download it for free if you wanted as they self released it. They made more money from that than the greatest hits album that they were contractually obliged to release by their record label.
 

Nzoric

Grazie Mirko
Jan 16, 2011
37,877
Bands only raelly make money when they tour and on merch. Radiohead released there last album on a "you chose what you pay" basis - you could download it for free if you wanted as they self released it. They made more money from that than the greatest hits album that they were contractually obliged to release by their record label.
I know that. But on the other hand, Radiohead has a large, loyal fangroup which will buy a turd in a CD box if it has Radiohead on it - small time bands can't do the same approach because who is going to pay anything for an album made by a band you've never heard of?
The part about making money on tour is also debatable. It depends if the bands have their own equipment, their own sound engineers, their own minions to put up the stage etc. If you have none of this, you're lucky to break even after the gig. Also the management takes a big part of the cake at gigs because of the publicity they spread via commercials etc.
Also the good old days when a label would find an artist, and say "Here is a 8 year deal, within these 8 years we require you to release 4 albums, here are the keys to the studio". Today if you don't have your own studio you're fucked, regardless of label - because you have to pay the label for using their studio, even though you're a signed artist. It makes fuckall sense.
 

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