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L'autista
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So how does that constitute choking? He wasn't in the best of shape before heading to Torino. He won medals before Torino and won the World Cup, so has he really shown a tendency of choking in the past?

In all honesty I'm tired of folks who can't understand this. Bode even wins gold to show he isn't a supposed choker yet he still choked. Funny.

Del Piero, Zidane, Pele, Maradona, Beckenbauer, Muller, Di Stefano must all be chokers then.
Canada choked today against the USA. Same difference.
 

Bjerknes

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Bode was supposed to win gold in each competition for the past 500 years, beating each opponent by 20 seconds and crossing the finish line by doing an inverted 360 with an iron cross grab.
 

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For the record, I don't read Olympics sports media at all except for the stats. So when I say I thought Bode Miller was something of a choker, it wasn't because I read anyone write that before -- I just thought that.
 

Bjerknes

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You are making absolutely no sense.

That, and I'd kick him in his old onion bags if his wife didn't already cut them off.
Were you not alluding to how you thought Bode choked with your original post in here? If so, you're simply spouting what everyone else in the media and internet said about Bode, that he choked. Tell me, how did someone who doesn't care about what anybody else thinks choke?
 

Bjerknes

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For the record, I don't read Olympics sports media at all except for the stats. So when I say I thought Bode Miller was something of a choker, it wasn't because I read anyone write that before -- I just thought that.
Well, that would make quite a few folks chokers then, including Maradona, Pele, Michael Phelps, Ohno, and all sorts of other athletes. Hell, basically any athlete would be a choker if he/she didn't win something they were expected to win.
 

Bjerknes

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If Bode's Vancouver turned out to be similar to that of Torino, I'd call him a choker. But no, two out of three Olympics show he's not, so even statistics are on my side.

It's just such a joke, don't know why I bother.
 

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Well, that would make quite a few folks chokers then, including Maradona, Pele, Michael Phelps, Ohno, and all sorts of other athletes. Hell, basically any athlete would be a choker if he/she didn't win something they were expected to win.
Clearly, you're hear to defend him. Fine. But even when Trezeguet goes up to take a PK against Italy in the WC 06 final and hits the post, yes, that makes him a choker. At least in that instance.

Even if he got the Euro 00 winner.

What doesn't make him a choker overall is that he actually had the Euro 00 winner... and scored the kick that defeated Milan for our 28th scudetto season.

For all the expectations put on Miller to date, he's come up short until now. That pretty much defines choking to me.
 

Bjerknes

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Clearly, you're hear to defend him. Fine. But even when Trezeguet goes up to take a PK against Italy in the WC 06 final and hits the post, yes, that makes him a choker. At least in that instance.

Even if he got the Euro 00 winner.
It just doesn't make logical sense. Miller has disregarded several pointers from coaches in the past, goes out drinking instead of training, and does not ski with a typically conservative approach that a supposed "choker" would. How does someone who doesn't care what folks say about him end up choking?

Losing an edge in downhill is not the same thing as missing a penalty kick. In skiing you're not consumed with one single moment but rather what seems like an eternity. Once you head down that starting gate, it's just like any other race. Your skis do the talking.

Bode's aggressive approach in Torino cost him, not his supposed weak mental attributes. But folks can't seem to analyze that, can they. I won't say why, though.
 

Bjerknes

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That's why, to me, it shows you don't know what you're talking about, Greg. Bode's form wasn't good in Torino, thus why he didn't win anything. He was far too reckless. He was going all out with no restraint.
 

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