Bjerknes

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I wouldn't praise Chavez for being "real" though, you have to take under consideration that we live under a tight currency exchange control and the currency hadn't been devalued in 5 years, which made the inflation to get as high as 32% each year. And we're living under two realities, the reality of the official dollar/bolivar rate which is absurd and imaginary because not many goods, services and the average citizen are allowed to buy dollars at that rate; and the real reality which is the "black market" that has a rate of dollar/bolivar 2x (and 3x) sometimes the real rate
I'm certainly not going to praise Chavez. What he's doing is sheer idiocy and will completely destroy whatever economy is left in Venezuela. And if the oil runs out, then the government will also collapse.

Wasn't the carnot cycle the ideal one? Therefore it doesn't exist in reality?
Indeed, it's a theoretical 100% efficient system.
 

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It doesn't make sense if it's enforced like it's being done here. For example, the zone where my brother goes to school has their electrical regulation from 12 noon til 4. So is he supposed to leave school and stop learning because Chavez's people were idiotic enough to not check and repair the turbines in the hydroelectric station that are broken?
That was sarcasm.
 

Bjerknes

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Socialism is sociolism. It is a system that breeds laziness and dependency. The health care system is one messed up situation and by the time you get your appointment to do a surgery or seeing a specialists you might die. The welfare system is big fraud and I don't like how it is structured and most of the poeple on it they are capable of working but choose not to and trick the government. I just don't love this whole wealth sharing system and the poor and the rich should be equal and divide the wealth. You work you earn, and if you are one lazy SOB then F u and you aren't getting any. There too many flaws. Socialism is workable only in heaven where it isn't needed, and in hell where they've got it.
No, communism would only work if greed wasn't part of human life. But since it is, you get a few people controlling the entire populous, having whatever they want at the expense of others.

At least capitalism admits greed is human.
 

Dragon

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:lol: They do that here. Except they don't tell anybody. Random times, random places. So you're sitting down watching a CL semi-final and boom, the current goes.
Well, before they were brave enough to admit it and create a schedule it was like that here too. You can imagine the chaos at 5pm on a friday and the traffic lights didn't work :lol:
 

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It's called allowing free market capitalism to work. If we want to save ourselves from our oil dependence, we need to move away from a government that doesn't allow us to. We need to allow private technology firms to grow and expand our possibilities on several fronts, including different energy sources. Right now, the Fed is stifling growth on those fronts by keeping their cheap money policy and bail out policy continuing, which means new firms can't get going. So the same folks are in there doing what they do.

Creating new technology is far more efficient than turning out the lights for four hours every other day.
Yeah I agree with you. The kids should play.

Though I don't perceive technology alone to be the solution to our problems.
 

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Socialism is sociolism. It is a system that breeds laziness and dependency. The health care system is one messed up situation and by the time you get your appointment to do a surgery or seeing a specialists you might die. The welfare system is big fraud and I don't like how it is structured and most of the poeple on it they are capable of working but choose not to and trick the government. I just don't love this whole wealth sharing system and the poor and the rich should be equal and divide the wealth. You work you earn, and if you are one lazy SOB then F u and you aren't getting any. There too many flaws. Socialism is workable only in heaven where it isn't needed, and in hell where they've got it.
Quick questions:

You know what they do in democratic countries when you can't pay your hospital bills?

And how many welfare vagrants do you see at your club?

Ever give to a charity?
 

Dragon

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Apr 24, 2003
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Socialism is sociolism. It is a system that breeds laziness and dependency. The health care system is one messed up situation and by the time you get your appointment to do a surgery or seeing a specialists you might die. The welfare system is big fraud and I don't like how it is structured and most of the poeple on it they are capable of working but choose not to and trick the government. I just don't love this whole wealth sharing system and the poor and the rich should be equal and divide the wealth. You work you earn, and if you are one lazy SOB then F u and you aren't getting any. There too many flaws. Socialism is workable only in heaven where it isn't needed, and in hell where they've got it.
My thoughts exactly, here the government wants to own and control everything so the "rich" and middle class have to disclose everything they own to the government and pay "luxury taxes" I am not against paying taxes, I am against paying taxes when I know my money isn't going anywhere but some government employees' pockets.
Also there is no private industry here, all the big oil companies had to leave, CEMEX, Banco Santander and some others were nationalized . The government wants to rule everything but they have to realize they don't have the manpower to do it and sometimes it's better to let a third party manage some of your business
 

Dragon

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Quick questions:

You know what they do in democratic countries when you can't pay your hospital bills?

And how many welfare vagrants do you see at your club?

Ever give to a charity?
In the 21st Century Socialism (Venezuela) if you can't pay your hospital bills you're screwed because the public hospitals don't have doctors, rooms, beds and medicine.
 

Delle Alpi

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No, communism would only work if greed wasn't part of human life. But since it is, you get a few people controlling the entire populous, having whatever they want at the expense of others.

At least capitalism admits greed is human.
And that's why all commuinist countries are controlled by some greedy dictatorship. I wouldn't want to be living in country where I can't speak my mind or and be free to express myself. or Where the media are being told what to say or write.

Capitalism is just straight forward to the point
 

Delle Alpi

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May 26, 2009
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Quick questions:

You know what they do in democratic countries when you can't pay your hospital bills?

And how many welfare vagrants do you see at your club?

Ever give to a charity?
First of all I am not rich, I am in the middle class. I have no problem paying the taxes and some of it going to help the very poor to eat, have cloth, and get treated, but when I see plenty of people around me on welfare and they are middle class or above, that's when I get pissed with the system. I usually donate for the charity specially that we have many on our campus to help several organisations and I love to get involved in such things. The point is that the system is easily abused. I know many people in such democratic countries can't afford to go to hospitals and aren't treated, then some of the tax money should be used to help those very poor, and I want to pay for my health insurance to get the treatment I want that I can afford because I had the opportuinty to work and study harder and I took advantage of this opportuinty.
 

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