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L'autista
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Me? I was raised Catholic, but in a liberal Chicago Catholic way. It wasn't until I learned about Catholicism in California did I realize that some areas can be more tongue-in-cheek with the rules while others are much more strict adherents. For example, in Chicago the Catholic Church there would think little of it if you married a Jew in a hotel and asked a priest to attend the service. In California, that's impossible -- you even have to get permission from a Cardinal just to have it between Catholics outside of a formal church.

But more to what got me on my drift, I got into philosophy (minored in it) and other world religions in college. And given how different religions are products of their times and the societies in which they thrive, I quickly realized -- at least for me -- how narrow a perspective any one single religion can have.

I do think there are merits in going deep in the narrow path of a single religion. But my interests are more in the breadth and variety and the question of what innately makes so many humans religious.
 

Zé Tahir

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In our countries it's legal to leave your religion :kiss:
What does "our" mean? There are Christians in "our" countries as well and it's perfectly legal to leave any religion :kiss:

Oh, I don't know how it is in rest of Europe but in Sweden (just a few years back) anyone born was automatically registered as a member of the Swedish Church and had to pay a certain 'tax' (not sure what it's called). It doesn't work like that in "our" world.
 

Martin

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What does "our" mean? There are Christians in "our" countries as well and it's perfectly legal to leave any religion :kiss:
Since you were trolling the Christians I thought I'd throw you one back :touched:

Oh, I don't know how it is in rest of Europe but in Sweden (just a few years back) anyone born was automatically registered as a member of the Swedish Church and had to pay a certain 'tax' (not sure what it's called). It doesn't work like that in "our" world.
Yeah it's like that too in Norway, except they never hassle you for anything. There's no tax, no nothing. So I don't care if they list me as a member, it has zero impact on my life.
 

Zé Tahir

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Since you were trolling the Christians I thought I'd throw you one back :touched:
I was joking although there is a hint of truth to it :D

Yeah it's like that too in Norway, except they never hassle you for anything. There's no tax, no nothing. So I don't care if they list me as a member, it has zero impact on my life.
I think back in 2003 or something there was a law passed and people were allowed to leave the Church and many did because part of their income tax was going to the Church. So in Sweden it was a 'big' deal.
 

Martin

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I was joking although there is a hint of truth to it :D



I think back in 2003 or something there was a law passed and people were allowed to leave the Church and many did because part of their income tax was going to the Church. So in Sweden it was a 'big' deal.
So you're saying our propaganda is better than yours. Just imagine what would happen if I grew up in a Muslim country and I still believed :eek: There would be no Juventuz, you wouldn't be here, IT WOULD HAVE CHANGED THE COURSE OF HISTORY!
 

JCK

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Ze, as a child you don't pay the church tax in Sweden, once you start having an income it's when you start paying the tax. And by then you have the choice to leave the church and thus don't pay the tax. However, as of the year 2000 this isn't anymore, you join the church when you decide to, it doesn't happen automatically any longer.
 

Martin

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Dec 31, 2000
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Ze, as a child you don't pay the church tax in Sweden, once you start having an income it's when you start paying the tax. And by then you have the choice to leave the church and thus don't pay the tax. However, as of the year 2000 this isn't anymore, you join the church when you decide to, it doesn't happen automatically any longer.
This tax, it's explicit on your tax forms?
 

Zé Tahir

JhoolayLaaaal!
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Dec 10, 2004
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So you're saying our propaganda is better than yours. Just imagine what would happen if I grew up in a Muslim country and I still believed :eek: There would be no Juventuz, you wouldn't be here, IT WOULD HAVE CHANGED THE COURSE OF HISTORY!
Your propaganda? I don't follow :confused:

Does Juventuz have a connection with you not being a Christian? :D

Ze, as a child you don't pay the church tax in Sweden, once you start having an income it's when you start paying the tax. And by then you have the choice to leave the church and thus don't pay the tax. However, as of the year 2000 this isn't anymore, you join the church when you decide to, it doesn't happen automatically any longer.
Right, that's what I meant.

It's legal but they'll beat the shit out of you right after you leave it as well. :alen:
So if you don't go to the mosque/church you get beat up by people or just for officially leaving?
 

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