Fred

Senior Member
Oct 2, 2003
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That's bullshit. Most of those oppressive regimes say they act in the name of Islam and so do extremists.

So they must have a common cause. Which is the lack of structure.

Think about the benefits of a muslim Pope. It would suddenly become a controlled religion. Of course it would have to follow a similar course to Catholicism, but according to you most muslims are moderate so it wouldn't be a problem. If you have a Pope, majority rules. If you have a Pope, you have religious democracy.



I don't think its that easy.


Also your argument that those oppressive regimes are acting in the name of Islam because they say so is such a poor argument.
 

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L'autista
Administrator
Sep 23, 2003
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I'm the only person who dares to come to the logical conclusion.
I don't see it that way. It's as if every other post from you would be like, "Americans invading Iraq for WMDs was a scam!" Five years of it gets to be a bit tiresome, whether or not you agree with the statement.

You need a new schtick. The old one is getting too ripe. Even Yakov Smirnov had to cut it out with the "In Russia, party finds you!" jokes.

Like I said before: I think Islam is one of the worst religions in the world, because it has structural problems. You are bound for extremism. You are setting yourself up for governments that use it this way. What you need is a friggin' Pope.
Its decentralized nature is either one of its elegant strikes of genius or the seeds of its great downfall, if not both.

I look at religions organically, as I do urban legends. They need conditions in the society in which they are raised to propagate. They struggle in a survival-of-the-fittest realm. Gnosticsm loses out to Christianity not unlike Neanderthals to homo sapiens.

But time and context changes. There are things about Islam that have made it prosper. But there are other reasons to believe it could have seeds of its own demise buried in its DNA based on how it's coming to fit, or not, in modern society.

That's bullshit. Most of those oppressive regimes say they act in the name of Islam and so do extremists.
But oppressive regimes seem to give rise to extremist movements, much to the peril of said regimes. Take the birth of the Muslim Brotherhood of Egypt.

So they must have a common cause. Which is the lack of structure.
I think you're mixing the two. Extremism and the oppressive regimes may have similar tactics in some ways, but they are diametrically opposed in others. And there's no way you could attribute the rise of the Muslim Brotherhood to a lack of structure in Egypt's governmental crackdowns...

Islamic extremism has become the new communism in a lot of ways.
 

JCK

Biased
JCK
May 11, 2004
125,395
I'm fine, yes I haven't been much around for several reasons, the new puppy and my kitchen renovations. I just finished painting the walls, tomorrow the floor and then we are blessed with a long weekend from Thursday it will be full with building the closets and everything else.

How are you doing?
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
116,251
Bank of America down 5% after hours, woohoo! Seems like the bear market rally is losing a lot of steam. Hopefully time for a major correction.

I think the banks are selling their shares and collecting some capital.
 

.zero

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Aug 8, 2006
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I'm fine, yes I haven't been much around for several reasons, the new puppy and my kitchen renovations. I just finished painting the walls, tomorrow the floor and then we are blessed with a long weekend from Thursday it will be full with building the closets and everything else.

How are you doing?
damn, you sound like a master craftsman.

i've been great and grateful. summer is almost upon us as i am blessed with 90 degree weather with +90% humidity nearly everyday now
 

JCK

Biased
JCK
May 11, 2004
125,395
damn, you sound like a master craftsman.

i've been great and grateful. summer is almost upon us as i am blessed with 90 degree weather with +90% humidity nearly everyday now
With all the activities around me, I am missing the jogs and bicycle tours in this beautiful spring :(

I wish my puppy was a bit older so I can go biking with him running next to me, but I guess I have to wait a year for that.

But the grilling is going at full power, especially that I have no kitchen at the moment.
 

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