Bjerknes

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ßüякε;1923731 said:
Are you an idiot?

Other companies would step in and "take those A+L?" Are you idiotic?

Geico is going to pay out claims and hundreds of thousands of dollars to people who don't own any of their policies.

So you end up with some guy who got fucked in a car accident stuck in the hospital with $300,000 in med bills, but he's got to pay it because the insurance company he bought his policy from went in the tank, even though he's been feeding the company money for years.

Good idea, Andy, why not give you the gun and you can shoot him.


Are you just now getting that?
You don't get it, do you? That's the whole point of capitalism. You want to continue throwing money at these firms that are doomed to fail, an immoral proposition as they committed economic sins, and you want us to fund it?

Fuck that, you have no idea what you're talking about then. The better solution is to allow the better company to come in and start managing money properly.

All we're doing is delaying the inevitable and you know that. All you have to do is look at a chart of AIG. Let them fucking go under already.
 
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    You don't get it, do you? That's the whole point of capitalism. You want to continue throwing money at these firms that are doomed to fail, an immoral proposition as they committed economic sins, and you want us to fund it?

    Fuck that, you have no idea what you're talking about then. The better solution is to allow the better company to come in and start managing money properly.

    All we're doing is delaying the inevitable and you know that. All you have to do is look at a chart of AIG. Let them fucking go under already.
    ...and leave millions of people flat on their asses.

    It's bigger than the company.

    It's about the people, it always has been. Stop seeing AIG as a stock ticker and see it as the faces of the people in a crowd who could literally die if the bailout didn't happen.
     

    Bjerknes

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    Why'd you vote for a liar, then? Twice.
    I thought he'd be an intelligent option, but thus far he has shown he's just the same sort of thing as Bush, minus a few policies such as lifting the Stem cell funding ban. But a lot of people are fooled by what he has orchestrated since he was brought into office, such as moving prison camps around the world, not ending the war in Iraq, and claiming he would allow people to review bills for a week before he ordered them to be voted upon, something seen in the last BS stimulus bill.
     

    Bjerknes

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    ...and leave millions of people flat on their asses.

    It's bigger than the company.

    It's about the people, it always has been. Stop seeing AIG as a stock ticker and see it as the faces of the people in a crowd who could literally die if the bailout didn't happen.
    Why don't you tell that to the people who have already lost their jobs, the mounting 300,000 jobless claims every week, and tell them to be patient despite bailing out the idiots who helped cause this mess.

    That's where you're wrong about the issue. It's hypocritical and immoral and you know it.
     

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    All of our parents will have jobs, Vinni will have a job.
    I think that's a way bigger issue than the economy. This whole me first attitude of American's today has no doubt contributed to today's crisis. No one is concerned with the well being of the nation, only themselves. The government could piss in our Cherios and we'd be happy about it as long as they don't raise taxes and Microsoft goes up. I mean really who tries to sell poor people loans they know absolutely can't pay back. We have a health care and education systems that are geared toward making an extreme profit instead educating and healing the sick. Our service industries don't serve. They give you a big mac and a zolaft and you enjoy your moment of good feeling because even though you're over weight and the air you breathe is contributing to your 12 year old's asthma, whose medicine you can't afford because the premiums the HMO your employer uses are just too much for him to justify giving your part time ass an insurance plan, because he needs to make a big profit to fill his SUV and buy his 30,000 square foot house, which he fills with flat screens and X-Boxes. But that's ok because after getting off from your 7th job today and working you 250th hour this weak for minimum wage you just picked up your own plasma and your own Xbox from the mother fucking liquidation sale that used to be Circuit City. Meanwhile , you're kid just had an asthma attack at school and died because the education system is too concentrated on making money for corporations, I mean colleges, by training educators to teach kids to fill in bubbles that the gym teacher couldn't tell Jimmy wasn't breathing, but that's ok because that big mac was good, viagra makes your dick hard when you can find it, and your taxes are low, but then again you won't be getting that child tax credit this year but you didn't know what that was anyway. And if you're a bitch or a nigger it's worse. You either have to sell drugs or fuck your way into a position of power and if you do accomplish something it's only because you're a nigger or you have a pussy. But that's ok too because you're taxes are moderate, Microsoft went up, wellfare covers Zolaft and Viagra, and that liquidation of jobs just got you a flat screen. In other words you are set and nothing else matters. Fuckin' feel me?
     
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    Why don't you tell that to the people who have already lost their jobs, the mounting 300,000 jobless claims every week, and tell them to be patient despite bailing out the idiots who helped cause this mess.

    That's where you're wrong about the issue. It's hypocritical and immoral and you know it.
    No, it's not about jobs. Did you see the example about the guy in the hospital I offered?

    Trust me, 99% of the 300,000 you just mentioned would rather NOT have a job than be stuck in the hospital with any amount of medical bills. Then, on top of that, thinking their insurance company is covering them, and when they aren't, they have to pay the bills themselves. The kicker is, they are going to be numb from the knee down the rest of their life.
     

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    I thought he'd be an intelligent option, but thus far he has shown he's just the same sort of thing as Bush, minus a few policies such as lifting the Stem cell funding ban. But a lot of people are fooled by what he has orchestrated since he was brought into office, such as moving prison camps around the world, not ending the war in Iraq, and claiming he would allow people to review bills for a week before he ordered them to be voted upon, something seen in the last BS stimulus bill.
    "Obama knocked down the Towers, tell the truth nigga".
     

    Bjerknes

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    No, it's not about jobs. Did you see the example about the guy in the hospital I offered?

    Trust me, 99% of the 300,000 you just mentioned would rather NOT have a job than be stuck in the hospital with any amount of medical bills. Then, on top of that, thinking their insurance company is covering them, and when they aren't, they have to pay the bills themselves. The kicker is, they are going to be numb from the knee down the rest of their life.
    As if they could continue paying their insurance premiums if they're unemployed for a long period of time.

    As I said, tell the people who already lost their jobs why we should bail out the idiots who passed around worthless exploding bonds despite acting like a conservative insurance company. And as we perhaps continue to pass them change as their stock flutters around 25 cents a share, on the brink of insolvency after all this money was given to them by even some people who lost their jobs, tell them why they are not as deserving of a bailout as AIG workers. Tell them they are not too big to fail.

    This stinks to high heaven. Reminds me of the same crap when bankers from Wall Street went to ask for a bailout and were accepted, while the automakers were shunned. Really fair system that surely works! :lol:
     

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    Now you're just being plain cadley.
    No I'm just being "real". Obama didn't lie to you, he didn't promise to use the Fast Money economic stimulus plan. He promised to give it his best and attempt to fix what's broken. Calling him a liar is just as cadly as me saying he knocked down the towers.

    Anyway, I can't believe I forgot to grab some PM's today. :frown:
     
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    As if they could continue paying their insurance premiums if they're unemployed for a long period of time.

    As I said, tell the people who already lost their jobs why we should bail out the idiots who passed around worthless exploding bonds despite acting like a conservative insurance company. And as we perhaps continue to pass them change as their stock flutters around 25 cents a share, on the brink of insolvency after all this money was given to them by even some people who lost their jobs, tell them why they are not as deserving of a bailout as AIG workers. Tell them they are not too big to fail.

    This stinks to high heaven. Reminds me of the same crap when bankers from Wall Street went to ask for a bailout and were accepted, while the automakers were shunned. Really fair system that surely works! :lol:
    That is different. The "big gay 3" have been slapped for money in lawsuits so many times over the past 50 years that it is disgusting. They have to repeatedly be reminded that NO, you can't fuck over the consumer. You can't kill them and then decide that it's cheaper to keep killing them than make a recall.

    For years they have sat in the wings offering a worse product than the competitor, then complain when we buy the better one. Then have the gaul to call us unpatriotic...

    The auto industry is bullshit, at least in this country.
     
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    No I'm just being "real". Obama didn't lie to you, he didn't promise to use the Fast Money economic stimulus plan. He promised to give it his best and attempt to fix what's broken. Calling him a liar is just as cadly as me saying he knocked down the towers.

    Anyway, I can't believe I forgot to grab some PM's today. :frown:
    Pussy magnets?
     

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    That is different. The "big gay 3" have been slapped for money in lawsuits so many times over the past 50 years that it is disgusting. They have to repeatedly be reminded that NO, you can't fuck over the consumer. You can't kill them and then decide that it's cheaper to keep killing them than make a recall.

    For years they have sat in the wings offering a worse product than the competitor, then complain when we buy the better one. Then have the gaul to call us unpatriotic...

    The auto industry is bullshit, at least in this country.
    Auto industry has a union, so employee are protected in the short term. But it's true GM is going down and I'm loving it. Any company that basis it's future on SUV's and pick up trucks when people are demanding efficiency vehicles deserves it's fate. It's a shame though because they just recently (this fall or summer) got on the efficiency bandwagon. They had a sweet hydrogen car on campus in like November that "was" close to floor development.
     

    Bjerknes

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    That is different. The "big gay 3" have been slapped for money in lawsuits so many times over the past 50 years that it is disgusting. They have to repeatedly be reminded that NO, you can't fuck over the consumer. You can't kill them and then decide that it's cheaper to keep killing them than make a recall.

    For years they have sat in the wings offering a worse product than the competitor, then complain when we buy the better one. Then have the gaul to call us unpatriotic...

    The auto industry is bullshit, at least in this country.
    ... so is the investment banking industry, the insurance industry, and even some mortgage issuers in this country. At least the autos produce a product instead of taking capital and sending it into a huge black hole through derivatives...

    This shit is just too funny. But hell, issue all the failed banks all the money they want. It's practically the same as having fake wars such as in Iraq. Might as well save lives by sponsoring financial terrorism.
     

    Bjerknes

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    No I'm just being "real". Obama didn't lie to you, he didn't promise to use the Fast Money economic stimulus plan. He promised to give it his best and attempt to fix what's broken. Calling him a liar is just as cadly as me saying he knocked down the towers.

    Anyway, I can't believe I forgot to grab some PM's today. :frown:
    Ohhh, so what a person says during a campaign doesn't matter then?

    Thank you, Enron. That may have been the last time I voted within this system of bullshit.
     
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    ... so is the investment banking industry, the insurance industry, and even some mortgage issuers in this country. At least the autos produce a product instead of taking capital and sending it into a huge black hole through derivatives...

    This shit is just too funny. But hell, issue all the failed banks all the money they want. It's practically the same as having fake wars such as in Iraq. Might as well save lives by sponsoring financial terrorism.
    Whatever floats your narrow, skinny, boat-butt.
     

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