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    The thing is he did hint at being responsible. Perhaps it was merely a case of wanting to be associated with them, I don't know. Either way I don't think it's particularly relevant.
    Have to agree with Seven on this one.
    June 30 -- the next budget deadline. Which, if I can represent my years of California experience correctly, means the budget for FY 2010 will be passed sometime in year 2013. And since Skynet already became self-aware in 1997, we'll all be f*cked over by cybernetic organisms by then.
    Upon its creation, Skynet began to learn at a geometric rate. It became self- aware on August 29, 1997
    ...cada vez te quiero mas
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    Our economy has been destroyed and the ship is sinking. Remember, we're only about a year into this. Not to mention our liberties are being destroyed with every passing bill, but nobody seems to care about that. It will come back to haunt us.
    Whatever, Bush did more of that than anyone with the passing of the "Patriot Act." I just think you've been drinking too much Purple Kool-Aid, or in your case, too many "Freedom Fries."
    We have enough houses and buildings though. That's the last thing we need right now.

    I'm about to head to the store for some needed food.
    What type of buildings? Because there are some that we need, and a lot of. We need schools like no one's business.
    But construction firms, I meant roads, bridges, dams, levees, you know infrastructure. Farming and alternative energy are great but infrastructure can provide jobs too. And right now provide a lot more jobs.
    The New Deal. Hoover Dam
     

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    The New Deal. Hoover Dam
    Yeah. Like that, except instead of re-creating the TVA, CCC, etc just give tax breaks to private companies that focus on building infrastructure and show contract favoritism to companies that hire Americans. The same thing with alternative energy.
     
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    Civil liberties have actually been deteriorating for a while now, even before W. From what I have seen from Obama thus far, which is nothing much, is more talk about taking away certain rights.
    But overall, this is nothing like life under the House Un-American Activities Committee of the 1950s.
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    What type of buildings? Because there are some that we need, and a lot of. We need schools like no one's business.
    At a time when businesses are going out of business, cleaning out their stores in strip malls and multi-level structures, eventually producing a glut of buildings that nobody will want to occupy, and thus those who own those buildings returning a loss on capital, we don't need new buildings right now. Schools are an exception but not really, except for some in major cities perhaps.

    We need to cut government spending right now, not increase it.
     
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    At a time when businesses are going out of business, cleaning out their stores in strip malls and multi-level structures, eventually producing a glut of buildings that nobody will want to occupy, and thus those who own those buildings returning a loss on capital, we don't need new buildings right now. Schools are an exception but not really, except for some in major cities perhaps.

    We need to cut government spending right now, not increase it.
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    At a time when businesses are going out of business, cleaning out their stores in strip malls and multi-level structures, eventually producing a glut of buildings that nobody will want to occupy, and thus those who own those buildings returning a loss on capital, we don't need new buildings right now. Schools are an exception but not really, except for some in major cities perhaps.

    We need to cut government spending right now, not increase it.
    The situation is national, if not global, but it reminds me a lot of Texas in the early 1990s not long after the S&L scandals. My younger (ninja cop) brother moved to Austin, and miles all around you saw nothing but half-built strip malls, abandoned housing developments, etc. That stuff is boom-and-bust cyclical.

    That said, we probably need a lot fewer buildings in some places and more in others -- and with specific purposes in mind. Just less overall.

    Lately I've been pondering dead societies and cities -- Persepolis, Palenque, Palmyra, Ephesus, Angkor, Vijayanagar, etc. -- and some of the modern equivalents we might consider today -- Detroit, Asbury Park, NJ, North Dakota, etc. We often forget how climate and economic shifts have created abandoned cities throughout history.
     

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