Martin

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You don't drink?
Rarely. But I don't get drunk.

Still haven't heard a good argument for that by the way.
You know people who buy Diet Coke because they're too good for Coke? It's that kind of thing. The guy who buys a Ford Whatever Turbo so that he can look down on his neighbor who doesn't have the turbo.

Macs may be a small improvement over Windows, but it's far from the miracle it's hyped out to be. Beyond that, it's the same exact corporate culture, the same single company that tells you exactly what you're going to use and you better like it.

Or any argument as to why Macs are all hype.
I wouldn't say they are all hype, but they are mostly hype. As in the hype takes about 80% of the attention in any discussion, and once you miraculously get past that you can actually talk objectively.
 

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You know people who buy Diet Coke because they're too good for Coke? It's that kind of thing. The guy who buys a Ford Whatever Turbo so that he can look down on his neighbor who doesn't have the turbo.

Macs may be a small improvement over Windows, but it's far from the miracle it's hyped out to be. Beyond that, it's the same exact corporate culture, the same single company that tells you exactly what you're going to use and you better like it.
Oh hush Martin. I've had Macs since back when they came with -intosh. In high school I was soooo out of it because I used an iMac instead of a Dell. Now Mac sorts out it's advertising department and lands a solid marketing strategy and I have to sit and listen to a bunch of angry Linux users curse the "hype". Puuuurlease.
 

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Still haven't heard a good argument for that by the way. Or any argument as to why Macs are all hype.
i don't think they are all hype. i bought my sister a macbook last year for school and i actually like it.my only problem is that its expensive. i don't like dropping a G for a notebook.

It's so ironic that you guys are hurt by a geek's opinions about geeky gadgets. You of all people shouldn't give a damn about this right? :D
 

Martin

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Well thanks.
Sorry bro, you didn't deserve that.

Oh hush Martin. I've had Macs since back when they came with -intosh. In high school I was soooo out of it because I used an iMac instead of a Dell. Now Mac sorts out it's advertising department and lands a solid marketing strategy and I have to sit and listen to a bunch of angry Linux users curse the "hype". Puuuurlease.
Well, presumably you didn't pick a Mac in the hopes of boosting your popularity, did you? (Incidentally can you imagine how many people are these days?) So what do you care what people think about it?

The fact is Apple has pretty much always promoted the Mac as something for the "cooler kids", the infamous recent tv ads included. It's about image. Their current success is based on marketing, to a greater extent than most products out there. And ultimately marketing is deception, which is very counter productive to an honest appraisal of the facts.

Take this dislike that Jack and I and some other people have about Barcelona, the club. It's because the club pushes this "mas que un club" bs and the whole culture around it encourages this kind of holier-than-thou attitude from its fans. It's fake and it's annoying.
 

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ahhh, got a reasonably important trial tomorow, decent club, the director is an arsenal scout and one of the players who was there last season is now in the arsenal reserves, and a director of hungarian club verncvaros (they play in the champions league qualifiers) is coming down to watch me play, could be a good opportunity, can't choke, gotta be focused gotta b sharp, pray for me guys!!! i'm on a high after saturday, this would be sweet if i put in a good performance :angel: :tup:
 

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Well, presumably you didn't pick a Mac in the hopes of boosting your popularity, did you? (Incidentally can you imagine how many people are these days?) So what do you care what people think about it?

The fact is Apple has pretty much always promoted the Mac as something for the "cooler kids", the infamous recent tv ads included. It's about image. Their current success is based on marketing, to a greater extent than most products out there. And ultimately marketing is deception, which is very counter productive to an honest appraisal of the facts.

Take this dislike that Jack and I and some other people have about Barcelona, the club. It's because the club pushes this "mas que un club" bs and the whole culture around it encourages this kind of holier-than-thou attitude from its fans. It's fake and it's annoying.
Let me see if I understand this.

If something is popular then it is automatically a bad product?

If something is unknown by the majority of society then it is a great product?

It's wrong to advertise yourself as a superior product when in many ways you are?

In addition to the Macs, I've personally had two PCs. An Toshiba and a Dell. They were both crap, though the Toshiba was a bit less crap than the Dell.

You have to realize that up until the last 5 years Mac wasn't a major product. It's marketing success is recent. At least in the US. Sure it was well known in some circles, but in the late 90s and early 2000's it was all about "Dude you're getting a Dell!:tup:" and before that it was the Gateway fad.

It just seems odd to me to dislike a product because it is popular.
 

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