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L'autista
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Sep 23, 2003
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OK, hear me out. Does anybody else find it strange that suddenly Hip-Hop (let alone any mention of rap) has a singular birthday we're all supposed to celebrate now?

Music is evolutionary, not a singular creation event. Which is why we have no such dates for jazz, blues, raggae, rock, etc.

Look, all props to DK Kool Herc and his two-turntable party and all. And all props to the Bronx. But the minute you do that, you erase King Stitt deejaying in the late 1960s. You erase the Chicago Soul Train Dancers of 1970. You erase Cornbread, who was doing modern graffiti in Philadelphia in the 1960s - years before the Bronx even knew about it.

So why now? Why all of a sudden does an entire musical genre have to have a singular birthday?

At first I thought this was more a PR campaign for people wanting to take credit for it... as if Elvis' estate claimed he invented rock & roll with Little Richard and Chuck Berry conveniently being dead.

Then I understood the real motivation is a reflection of the state of our world: this is just another perverse manifestation of humans unable to cope with imprecision, uncertainty, and needing the illusion of control in a very chaotic world.

It's the same factors that made them claim during Covid that no one will ever go back to the office ever again, or even eat publicly in restaurants again -- forcing a comfort of certainty where none existed nor belonged. It's the same motivations behind slow motion replays and VARs in sports, as if to bring them closer to some universal, God-like truth that doesn't really exist.

We live in anxious times. And in anxious times, people clutch to certainties. This whole 50 Years since the birth of Hip-Hop thing is a complete social anxiety grab. Some people just can't handle multiple influences at different times, places, and dates influencing each other. They can't sleep at night without a definitive answer they can put to bed and forget.
 

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Jun 16, 2020
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OK, hear me out. Does anybody else find it strange that suddenly Hip-Hop (let alone any mention of rap) has a singular birthday we're all supposed to celebrate now?

Music is evolutionary, not a singular creation event. Which is why we have no such dates for jazz, blues, raggae, rock, etc.

Look, all props to DK Kool Herc and his two-turntable party and all. And all props to the Bronx. But the minute you do that, you erase King Stitt deejaying in the late 1960s. You erase the Chicago Soul Train Dancers of 1970. You erase Cornbread, who was doing modern graffiti in Philadelphia in the 1960s - years before the Bronx even knew about it.

So why now? Why all of a sudden does an entire musical genre have to have a singular birthday?

At first I thought this was more a PR campaign for people wanting to take credit for it... as if Elvis' estate claimed he invented rock & roll with Little Richard and Chuck Berry conveniently being dead.

Then I understood the real motivation is a reflection of the state of our world: this is just another perverse manifestation of humans unable to cope with imprecision, uncertainty, and needing the illusion of control in a very chaotic world.

It's the same factors that made them claim during Covid that no one will ever go back to the office ever again, or even eat publicly in restaurants again -- forcing a comfort of certainty where none existed nor belonged. It's the same motivations behind slow motion replays and VARs in sports, as if to bring them closer to some universal, God-like truth that doesn't really exist.

We live in anxious times. And in anxious times, people clutch to certainties. This whole 50 Years since the birth of Hip-Hop thing is a complete social anxiety grab. Some people just can't handle multiple influences at different times, places, and dates influencing each other. They can't sleep at night without a definitive answer they can put to bed and forget.
The crazy thing is hip hop died years ago
 

AFL_ITALIA

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Jun 17, 2011
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OK, hear me out. Does anybody else find it strange that suddenly Hip-Hop (let alone any mention of rap) has a singular birthday we're all supposed to celebrate now?

Music is evolutionary, not a singular creation event. Which is why we have no such dates for jazz, blues, raggae, rock, etc.

Look, all props to DK Kool Herc and his two-turntable party and all. And all props to the Bronx. But the minute you do that, you erase King Stitt deejaying in the late 1960s. You erase the Chicago Soul Train Dancers of 1970. You erase Cornbread, who was doing modern graffiti in Philadelphia in the 1960s - years before the Bronx even knew about it.

So why now? Why all of a sudden does an entire musical genre have to have a singular birthday?

At first I thought this was more a PR campaign for people wanting to take credit for it... as if Elvis' estate claimed he invented rock & roll with Little Richard and Chuck Berry conveniently being dead.

Then I understood the real motivation is a reflection of the state of our world: this is just another perverse manifestation of humans unable to cope with imprecision, uncertainty, and needing the illusion of control in a very chaotic world.

It's the same factors that made them claim during Covid that no one will ever go back to the office ever again, or even eat publicly in restaurants again -- forcing a comfort of certainty where none existed nor belonged. It's the same motivations behind slow motion replays and VARs in sports, as if to bring them closer to some universal, God-like truth that doesn't really exist.

We live in anxious times. And in anxious times, people clutch to certainties. This whole 50 Years since the birth of Hip-Hop thing is a complete social anxiety grab. Some people just can't handle multiple influences at different times, places, and dates influencing each other. They can't sleep at night without a definitive answer they can put to bed and forget.
I figured this was just something happening locally here as a way to "celebrate black culture" or whatever, didn't know this was something everyone just decided to talk about globally.
 

alaska

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May 25, 2013
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How do you guys feel about psychedelics? Do you think there are any potential benefits from tripping besides having fun?

In this fucked up day and age of social media, fake gurus and millionaire alpha males, I feel my brain could do with a nice rewiring.
Definitely has potential, but the outcome skew is wild. It can do nothing, or it can do something bad, or it can get results for $30 that would take thousands of dollars and years in therapy.
 

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L'autista
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Sep 23, 2003
84,749
Watching BMW M6 tuning upgrade videos and trying to figure out how the hell my car will pass emissions
Bring lots of small bills and some good reefer. :shifty:

I figured this was just something happening locally here as a way to "celebrate black culture" or whatever, didn't know this was something everyone just decided to talk about globally.
Yeah, I saw the Yankees stadium event, but it's all over the media in LA and even around the world. Even the BBC quoted it... though curiously with a list that kind of refuted the whole ideal of a singular birthday:

https://www.bbc.com/culture/article...-gaillard-to-dirty-blues-singer-lucille-bogan

or even this bomb:

https://www.bbc.com/culture/article...ets-the-radical-poets-overshadowed-by-hip-hop

Those cheeky Brits were probably submarining the "official" celebrations:

https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-66452895

Definitely has potential, but the outcome skew is wild. It can do nothing, or it can do something bad, or it can get results for $30 that would take thousands of dollars and years in therapy.
Take it from baked alaska.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
115,906
All right ya little phaggots, you had a nice long summer outside tormenting everyone with ur yelling and screaming. Now it’s time to get ur little asses back in the government detention facilities we call schools. Papa needs to find some back to school shooting deals for a new MacBook Air.
 

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