lgorTudor

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Men and women are genetically wired to be entirely different from each other, instead of condemning their lack of deep interest for anything just enjoy their nice smell and bright meaningless jibber jabber at lunch. Women are not just you+tits+pussy. They are completely different creatures from us and it's better to embrace the behavioural differences. Managing expectations 'n' shiet.
 

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Dostoevsky

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That cant be true. 0 meaningful discussions with females? What type of work you're in? You've never had a meaningful, professional discussion with a dickless person? I've literally had hundreds if not thousands.
I'm mostly talking outside of work when you can actually engage in deeper convos. I switched many companies though and I can't say I was impressed. I'm not saying they are bad workers (although they certanly are in the current company, at least majority)
 

Osman

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Aug 30, 2002
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He hasnt, Dusan has talked like this for a decade now. Its no point talk him out of the ledge in this subject, he has set his mind to the fairer sex long time ago.


Best tip I could give him last time we discussed this ages ago is just move out of Serbia for a while and discover the world with an open mindset. Its easy to pre-judge and be fully focused on just the flaws and then generalize an entire gender. Its much harder to take each individual for who they are or what their surroundings has made them.

More importantly, call out chicks on their BS as much as you would do it to a guy, I do that on a regular the older I gotten, too few do against the pretty airheads, so they gotten conditioned to keep up with the entitled act. Igor despite joking said it best, manage your expectations, that goes for ANY social engagement.


I talked to airheaded chicks alot on the regular (as recently as the festival in Portugal, after party and this dumb chick tried to flex about her only fans to us, like its a normal job, we clowned her for rest of the night lol) , but dont take them seriously and dismiss them and then talk to normal ones. Its not that complicated.
 
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He hasnt, Dusan has talked like this for a decade now. Its no point talk him out of the ledge in this subject, he has set his mind to the fairer sex long time ago.


Best tip I could give him last time we discussed this ages ago is just move out of Serbia for a while and discover the world with an open mindset. Its easy to pre-judge and be fully focused on just the flaws of an entire gender. Its much harder to take each individual for who they are or what their surroundings has made them (and call out chicks on their BS as much as you would do it to a guy, I do that on a regular, too few do against the pretty airheads, so they gotten conditioned to keep up with the entitled act). Igor despite joking said it best, manage your expectations, that goes for ANY social engagement.


I talked to airheaded chicks alot on the regular (as recently as the festival in Portugal, after party and this dumb chick tried to flex about her only fans to us, like its a normal job, we clowned her for rest of the night lol) , but dont take them seriously and dismiss them and then talk to normal ones. Its not that complicated.
lol like he wouldn’t have done that years ago if he had the opportunity to
 

Osman

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There is allways the opportunity to try other experiences elsewhere, however long it takes, its about what you are willing to do to make it happen. And what your plans are when you move/travel overseas.
 

Strickland

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I'm mostly talking outside of work when you can actually engage in deeper convos. I switched many companies though and I can't say I was impressed. I'm not saying they are bad workers (although they certanly are in the current company, at least majority)
Sounds like you need a meaningful job where theres thinking involved. :p I guarantee it usually includes at least a couple of intelligent peeps of either sex and intelligent convos too.
 

Dostoevsky

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Sounds like you need a meaningful job where theres thinking involved. :p I guarantee it usually includes at least a couple of intelligent peeps of either sex and intelligent convos too.
I'll say again: I'm talking about convos outside of work. I don't know about you guys but wherever I worked that was work with a 30min break (not always). I never had a chance to dive into coversations with people when I'm at work. When there's talk it's about business 99% of the time. Talking about business and being successful at work doesn't necessary mean that a person is intelligent nor that they are capable of deeper convos imo. Life outside of work is a different story. Btw I'm not even trying to sound like an ego maniac and someone who thinks so high of himself. It's just that I rarely engage in any meaningful convo with girls, I rarely learn something from it. It's the daily chit chat and quite shallow points of view.
 

Dostoevsky

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lol like he wouldn’t have done that years ago if he had the opportunity to
Actually chances are quite high that I wouldn't do it even if I could however shocking that may sound.

He hasnt, Dusan has talked like this for a decade now. Its no point talk him out of the ledge in this subject, he has set his mind to the fairer sex long time ago.

Best tip I could give him last time we discussed this ages ago is just move out of Serbia for a while and discover the world with an open mindset. Its easy to pre-judge and be fully focused on just the flaws and then generalize an entire gender. Its much harder to take each individual for who they are or what their surroundings has made them.

More importantly, call out chicks on their BS as much as you would do it to a guy, I do that on a regular the older I gotten, too few do against the pretty airheads, so they gotten conditioned to keep up with the entitled act. Igor despite joking said it best, manage your expectations, that goes for ANY social engagement.

I talked to airheaded chicks alot on the regular (as recently as the festival in Portugal, after party and this dumb chick tried to flex about her only fans to us, like its a normal job, we clowned her for rest of the night lol) , but dont take them seriously and dismiss them and then talk to normal ones. Its not that complicated.
So you think it's Serbia that's the problem? I can't really say anything like that because I don't have much to compare with. However, I don't think our education is bad at all, especially in certain fields. As for what the surroundings has made of them/us, I don't think that's a bad thing, eventhough I wouldn't wish to anyone to go through a tough life. But when you have certain problems (I can't say be poor because I don't consider myself that), I think you're experiencing other virtues and you can appreciate things even more than others who are showered with prestigious stuff daily for their entire life.

I don't know why people get pissed over it. It's what I have experienced so far while living here, switching jobs and being social. You can't say that people here are stupid, that's insane. Also, there are way too many intelligent people here of all ages, I'm literally a nobody compared to them. But when it comes to meaningful convos, I can't say I've witnessed much from girls. It's easy to say that I shouldn't look up for hookers and models. I've been through different sorts so far and if there's one field they show their "better" side it's a line of business but, like I said, I don't consider that type of "success" intelligence.
 

Strickland

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I'll say again: I'm talking about convos outside of work. I don't know about you guys but wherever I worked that was work with a 30min break (not always). I never had a chance to dive into coversations with people when I'm at work. When there's talk it's about business 99% of the time. Talking about business and being successful at work doesn't necessary mean that a person is intelligent nor that they are capable of deeper convos imo. Life outside of work is a different story. Btw I'm not even trying to sound like an ego maniac and someone who thinks so high of himself. It's just that I rarely engage in any meaningful convo with girls, I rarely learn something from it. It's the daily chit chat and quite shallow points of view.
Of course you can have deep, meaningful convos with people at work in regards to work stuff so long as you're dealing with deep, meaningful stuff at work. If you're customer support or procurement or whatever, sure, its unlikely youll meet intellectual giants.
 

Dostoevsky

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Of course you can have deep, meaningful convos with people at work in regards to work stuff so long as you're dealing with deep, meaningful stuff at work. If you're customer support or procurement or whatever, sure, its unlikely youll meet intellectual giants.
Oh I totally agree about that. I look forward at life outside of work, though.

Cliche question: is it possible to have and live a happy life if you don't like your job?
 

Nzoric

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Jan 16, 2011
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Oh I totally agree about that. I look forward at life outside of work, though.

Cliche question: is it possible to have and live a happy life if you don't like your job?
I thought it was, before I got a job that I actually like. Now I cant imagine going back to working something without feeling connected to it tbh


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girl power in the media here has become a narcissism factory
Yep. Still, my favorite is intersectional girl power. You'll know it when you see it.

It's when something that women normally do -- like get naked for the camera, enter beauty contests, or open an OnlyFans account -- is considered chauvinistic and sexist pandering to the male gaze.

But when the would-be victim happens to be black, or fat, or trans, or is missing limbs, everybody starts showering them with girl power narcissism confetti for doing the very same thing a straight cis white girl would have been crucified for as fueling the patriarchy.

Oh I'm sorry if I made it sound like I mean it's just the Americans. I just used it as a prime example because of a big target group I'm dealing with.

As for your question, I do my 8 hour shift and keep the distance. I barely talk to anyone as I don't want to mix it with my private life. But generally speaking, and in all honesty, over the past 5-7 years I barely had any intellectual discussion with women. I think they are very limited, at least when it comes to majority. I see two groups 1) those that say thay only enjoy small talks and those are extremely boring with zero interests and passion in life 2) those that say how they love to talk about all pf the subjects whether that's stars, science, geopolitics, but their knowledge is extremely limited and from what I've noticed they only say that to sound smart, yet they offer close to zero in a discussion. When it comes to philosophy or literature, even cinematography, the knowledge is non existant. Same goes to sport, politics and science. Majority of them says they love travel but they don't know geography to begin with. The girl I date is above average I'd say but she studied literature so there's some expertise there. Truth be told, every time I had meaningful discussion it was with men. Majority of girls I see or deal with are there to be pretty (if we can say pretty while having tons of make up, plastic surgeries and filters) and to spend the money guys earn.
OK. I'm game. And I'm not gonna disagree with your point but ask a question. Any chance that the women you come across might be rewarded more for not having strong opinions or deep intellectual conversations? Because it's also true, for some insecure guys threatened by that, it can label a woman as having social leprosy Lite.
 

Strickland

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Oh I totally agree about that. I look forward at life outside of work, though.

Cliche question: is it possible to have and live a happy life if you don't like your job?
But if youre passionate about science, politics or sports, why not pursue a career there or somewhere else meaningful for you?

I worked a lot of odd jobs the first ~10 years after finishing school - bank teller, customer support, singer in an opera, technician in a service shop, sports journalist on a radio, administrative support in a shared service center. The past 3 years for the first time in my life I've been doing work that challenges me intellectually and actually feels fulfilling and tbh I wish I stopped jumping around a lot earlier.
 

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