Quetzalcoatl

It ain't hard to tell
Aug 22, 2007
66,748
:agree: there's always sales on Udemy. Fuck paying $200 for an online course.

I don't think I'll ever find the motivation to learn programming no matter how profitable it is. I hope you enjoy it in the long run.

Digital marketing is probably more competitive but it's something I enjoy more. Traditional businesses will look to make sales online so there's a chance to help these people get out there.
Everyone's doing digital marketing nowadays
 

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IliveForJuve

Burn this club
Jan 17, 2011
18,921
Everyone's doing digital marketing nowadays
but are they really? Most of those people are just action faking trying to learn from 20 year old gurus.

I agree that it's pretty competitive but digital marketing is a broad term that covers many methods and channels that you can use to promote products and services. This shit is so dynamic that what you learned yesterday is already outdated today.
 

Quetzalcoatl

It ain't hard to tell
Aug 22, 2007
66,748
but are they really? Most of those people are just action faking trying to learn from 20 year old gurus.

I agree that it's pretty competitive but digital marketing is a broad term that covers many methods and channels that you can use to promote products and services. This shit is so dynamic that what you learned yesterday is already outdated today.
You're right, a lot of people are doing these $50 courses thinking they can get into a "fun" career where they can work remotely and travel the world.

Probably there are more serious courses out there, but it just seems like there's an over supply of "digital marketers"
 

IliveForJuve

Burn this club
Jan 17, 2011
18,921
You're right, a lot of people are doing these $50 courses thinking they can get into a "fun" career where they can work remotely and travel the world.

Probably there are more serious courses out there, but it just seems like there's an over supply of "digital marketers"
Exactly :agree:

I do know some people that are into digital marketing and managed to build up pretty good portfolios in less than a year. But that's just anecdotal.

I've toyed with the idea of digital marketing but the business to business aspect just puts me off, especially in services.
 

GordoDeCentral

Diez
Moderator
Apr 14, 2005
70,774
Yeah and he was a lecturer, they get fired for all sorts of things. He has to sue the student though.

But other students, particularly young women, found themselves discomforted by the situation.
“It’s hard not to think he’s looking at you like that,” said freshman Samantha Hill. “I wouldn’t turn my camera on … I don’t want him to look at me.”


Lol gtfo.
Oh it's overreaction to the max, but this is the sanctimonious mine field we now call college
 

AFL_ITALIA

MAGISTERIAL
Jun 17, 2011
31,780
:agree: there's always sales on Udemy. Fuck paying $200 for an online course.

I don't think I'll ever find the motivation to learn programming no matter how profitable it is. I hope you enjoy it in the long run.

Digital marketing is probably more competitive but it's something I enjoy more. Traditional businesses will look to make sales online so there's a chance to help these people get out there.
I understand, it's definitely not for everyone. The tedium of it gets to me as well. A few days ago I spent HOURS working on some small project, trying to figure out why it's not working. Turns out I missed two "=" symbols somewhere. It's mentally exhausting :p.

I know absolutely nothing about marketing, but definitely. Can you do that remotely?
 

IliveForJuve

Burn this club
Jan 17, 2011
18,921
I understand, it's definitely not for everyone. The tedium of it gets to me as well. A few days ago I spent HOURS working on some small project, trying to figure out why it's not working. Turns out I missed two "=" symbols somewhere. It's mentally exhausting :p.

I know absolutely nothing about marketing, but definitely. Can you do that remotely?
Absolutely. But like I said, maybe not for me either! B2C is more my thing.

That's exactly why I could never do programming :p I know the pain of tedious work when reviewing huge ass contracts or going through a long fuckin law looking for answers.
 

X Æ A-12

Senior Member
Contributor
Sep 4, 2006
87,934
Yeah and he was a lecturer, they get fired for all sorts of things. He has to sue the student though.

But other students, particularly young women, found themselves discomforted by the situation.
“It’s hard not to think he’s looking at you like that,” said freshman Samantha Hill. “I wouldn’t turn my camera on … I don’t want him to look at me.”
She's right though. Some men are pigs and will just shamelessly look at your low cut top and pushup bra.
 

king Ale

Senior Member
Oct 28, 2004
21,689
Really coz college has always cost money stateside, the prevalence of this stuff is much higher in europe where education is mostly free, and had the genders been reversed we would be having a completely different discussion.
You're missing the point. The customer is not a constant, her demands will change. As a business, your survival depends on how well and quickly you adapt to the change. The university's purpose shouldn't be that. Sharing knowledge and creating a learning environment that is open to different ideas and opinions should precede everything else. But when you rely on the students' money to the extent universities do today, your main purpose will take a backseat. Then on the supply side what you have in abundance is instructors (another artifact of those crazy tuitions) so a simple cost-benefit analysis will immediately tell you what will happen. Doesn't matter if the instructor was a woman, the university's response would have still depended on the students' (who would have most probably been less bothered by the incident).
 

AFL_ITALIA

MAGISTERIAL
Jun 17, 2011
31,780
Absolutely. But like I said, maybe not for me either! B2C is more my thing.

That's exactly why I could never do programming :p I know the pain of tedious work when reviewing huge ass contracts or going through a long fuckin law looking for answers.
Either way, I know you'll make it work out somehow :D.

Legal documents fucking suck. I've had a bit of exposure to things like that as well in the past, I could never. With programming it at least gets easier as you do it more. It can also be really satisfying to build something from nothing. Fuck it though, a little work and you'll come out of the other side of this in a better position.
 

GordoDeCentral

Diez
Moderator
Apr 14, 2005
70,774
You're missing the point. The customer is not a constant, her demands will change. As a business, your survival depends on how well and quickly you adapt to the change. The university's purpose shouldn't be that. Sharing knowledge and creating a learning environment that is open to different ideas and opinions should precede everything else. But when you rely on the students' money to the extent universities do today, your main purpose will take a backseat. Then on the supply side what you have in abundance is instructors (another artifact of those crazy tuitions) so a simple cost-benefit analysis will immediately tell you what will happen. Doesn't matter if the instructor was a woman, the university's response would have still depended on the students' (who would have most probably been less bothered by the incident).
That is complete nonsense a place like u of m has acceptance ratio of about 30% so that's where your supply/demand analysis ought to take place. Now the culture of college is top down, you don't go to oral roberts and expect a vegan pansexual bonanza. Students are the mold not the molders in the equation. Moreover, you assert this is a demand driven business yet in the same breath say it is overpriced, which is an obvious contradiction.

College is like a hot club, you wait in line you pay a lot money to be there and you can get kicked out for whatever reason the people in charge deem sufficient, all of that so the next day you can say i went there. You never get to decide what is cool, the couple of promoters who look and sound like rock stars do.
 

lgorTudor

Senior Member
Jan 15, 2015
32,951
They would be too embarrassed to tell you they even noticed that tab. We have invented that word Fremdschämen (second hand embarrassment) for a reason. They wouldn't do anything to you but you would be that porn guy forever and everybody would be laughing behind you back forever so you might as well quit by yourself
 

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