Apr 15, 2006
56,640
Then fuck it. You're not attracted.

Might I ask what you're looking for?
I'll probably PM you that someday cos actually answering that Q will take me a while. :D

Women normally don't say they want the D unless they're sluts/promiscuous, in which case the signs are fairly obvious.

Don't be a wussy :p. You don't need clarity. Things are more exciting when you don't know all the answers.

It's clear you don't want anything with this chica so I'm just speaking in general.

One of my favorite quotes:

Here’s the bottom line: everyone has an imaginary companion who’ll be
with you your entire life. His name is Fear.

If you allow this companion to take control of your life, then he’ll put you in
a straightjacket.

But Fear can also be your loyal companion. When you hop on the wild
roller coaster of life, engaging in an infinite number of exhilarating undertakings,
Fear will come along with you.

He won’t get in your way, but he’ll always be there as long as you’re doing
new things. When you feel fear, it’s a sign that you’re doing something new and
exciting.
I KNOW they won't. Which is why I fuckin' hate dating!!! I'm shit at reading the "signs" and non-verbal cues. I don't have the patience to figure it out.

And no, don't think it's "exciting" when you don't know all the answers. More like anxiety-inducing!

lol they rarely do, they don't want to look like sluts. But they do want that many times, just don't say it out loud.

And btw that 'go with the flow' that she wants is pretty much 'lets do it and see where we land'.

If you don't want anything serious with this girl that's totally fine, but like Nikola said, you can just go out with her and have fun. But that's your call.
Which is why I think your question was pretty stupid. :D You don't really "know" anything. You just gotta take a guess and hope it's what they want. Fuck that shit!

Yea, they don't want to look like sluts. And I don't want to spend my time with someone who can't be straight about what they want. THEY are the wusses.

:D

Just FYI... They rarely do, in most cases if you wait for them to say it will never ever happen happen.


Some can be super direct in how horny they are (average girl more forward when really drunk, desperation in valentines day / new years or on vacation where she can fly away from the social after math) but even then won't outright say it and directly signal you the go sign like flight controller (don't want to be seen as sluts, even the ones who wouldn't care about it much), more like waiting on you to take charge or react to their non verbal "come on already" cues. Gets obvious when they interested or dtf without outright saying it.


P. S I don't know anything about her, but go with the flow might mean she wanna have casual fun.
Might. MIGHT!

@Dhee you just need to book 2 one-way tickets

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Tzu
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May 27, 2007
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I'll probably PM you that someday cos actually answering that Q will take me a while. :D



I KNOW they won't. Which is why I fuckin' hate dating!!! I'm shit at reading the "signs" and non-verbal cues. I don't have the patience to figure it out.

And no, don't think it's "exciting" when you don't know all the answers. More like anxiety-inducing!



Which is why I think your question was pretty stupid. :D You don't really "know" anything. You just gotta take a guess and hope it's what they want. Fuck that shit!

Yea, they don't want to look like sluts. And I don't want to spend my time with someone who can't be straight about what they want. THEY are the wusses.



Might. MIGHT!



I'd rather migrate to the Himalayas and become a hermit.
Man, you gotta realize they want the D in like 80% of the cases. It's guys who complicate things in majority of cases, not girls. You just can't get into a relationship think how both of you know everything and have everything planned. That's just not possible. Even if both of you want a serious relationship chances are high that it won't work simply because the two of you are different. There are stuff you can't know, otherwise the % of divorces wouldn't be like 80%. You gotta roll with what life gives and throws at ya. You, imo, are way too picky at this point.

There's also one more thing. You need to get experience. Don't feel like like I'm talking to a retard but you gotta realize you need sex points before stepping into anything more serious. How would you feel if you find a great girl who ditches you because you couldn't get it hard, or because you lasted 3 seconds? It would suck, yeah. :p
 
Apr 15, 2006
56,640
Man, you gotta realize they want the D in like 80% of the cases. It's guys who complicate things in majority of cases, not girls. You just can't get into a relationship think how both of you know everything and have everything planned. That's just not possible. Even if both of you want a serious relationship chances are high that it won't work simply because the two of you are different. There are stuff you can't know, otherwise the % of divorces wouldn't be like 80%. You gotta roll with what life gives and throws at ya. You, imo, are way too picky at this point.

There's also one more thing. You need to get experience. Don't feel like like I'm talking to a retard but you gotta realize you need sex points before stepping into anything more serious. How would you feel if you find a great girl who ditches you because you couldn't get it hard, or because you lasted 3 seconds? It would suck, yeah. :p
You're right. I'm picky, and I'm not ready to compromise on my needs just so I can get my dick wet. I don't want any of it in that case.
 

swag

L'autista
Administrator
Sep 23, 2003
84,749
Women normally don't say they want the D unless they're sluts/promiscuous, in which case the signs are fairly obvious.
You mean like herpes sores?

One of my favorite quotes:

Here’s the bottom line: everyone has an imaginary companion who’ll be
with you your entire life. His name is Fear.

If you allow this companion to take control of your life, then he’ll put you in
a straightjacket.

But Fear can also be your loyal companion. When you hop on the wild
roller coaster of life, engaging in an infinite number of exhilarating undertakings,
Fear will come along with you.

He won’t get in your way, but he’ll always be there as long as you’re doing
new things. When you feel fear, it’s a sign that you’re doing something new and
exciting.
Nice. A good quote, actually.

@Dhee you just need to book 2 one-way tickets

Workaholics :touched:

Man, you gotta realize they want the D in like 80% of the cases. It's guys who complicate things in majority of cases, not girls. You just can't get into a relationship think how both of you know everything and have everything planned. That's just not possible. Even if both of you want a serious relationship chances are high that it won't work simply because the two of you are different. There are stuff you can't know, otherwise the % of divorces wouldn't be like 80%. You gotta roll with what life gives and throws at ya. You, imo, are way too picky at this point.
Well, I'd argue that most divorces are the result of people getting married for all the wrong reasons.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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Cos she hasn't said it. She said she wants to "go with the flow", which I think means that she doesn't know what she wants, so wants me to lead instead of asking for what she wants. I'd rather have clarity than work under a hypothetical
Aah. The gentle sound of a man making excuses.



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Tickle Me
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Oct 11, 2005
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You're right. I'm picky, and I'm not ready to compromise on my needs just so I can get my dick wet. I don't want any of it in that case.
You'll have to get over the whole "they don't know what they want, so I'm not going out with them" thing. The truth is most people have no idea what they want until the have it. And even then they may not be completely sure of the idea.
 

swag

L'autista
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Sep 23, 2003
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You'll have to get over the whole "they don't know what they want, so I'm not going out with them" thing. The truth is most people have no idea what they want until the have it. And even then they may not be completely sure of the idea.
OMG, if I avoided women who didn't know what they wanted, I would have been a virgin for all my 20s.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,315
You're right. I'm picky, and I'm not ready to compromise on my needs just so I can get my dick wet. I don't want any of it in that case.
You're not 'picky'. Picky is what you are when women throw themselves at you and you refuse most of them.

You just want to turn her down before she turns you down. That's all it is.
 
Apr 15, 2006
56,640
That's your problem right there. It's like a student who feels down because he hasn't found hi dream job, before they have a single days of work in anywhere.
You'll have to get over the whole "they don't know what they want, so I'm not going out with them" thing. The truth is most people have no idea what they want until the have it. And even then they may not be completely sure of the idea.
I wish it would work like: I want this, this, this, and this. And I want her to look like that, that and that. And sex.

So many people want everything, yet do nothing to get it, but only wait. They all want it on the plate.
I don't expect to have "everything" on a plate or have everything figured out. But let me put it this way. I get what you're saying. Relationships work a certain way, and both men and the women have a role to play. Men are the ones who always gotta make the first move, be the initiators and all of that shit. All y'all do that so very well and truly deserve the illustrious experiences you've had. My problem is that I cannot play that role. I'm just not wired that way. I've tried to follow all of the advice I see here and ones given by friends and the internet. I've seen all of it and I really can't do it all. I used to feel like I was swimming up the river when I tried to do that. Felt like I was not being myself and just being someone else and following someone else's instructions, and I never liked that. The older I got and the more I tried, it just got worse. Like a fish out of water trying to climb a tree. There's just something wrong, or some disconnect due to which I just can't be like the rest of the menfolk.

I know you're gonna say that this is all BS, or that I'm overthinking it and I shouldn't. But I don't see any other way. I've always been an outcast and I have a feeling deep down inside that I'm not meant for relationships and that it's just futile to try. I obviously don't want it to be true cos I like anyone else have the evolutionary need to fuck and reproduce, but this is who I am and I need to accept it and work with it. I know it's just a matter of time before I completely lose interest in it all. This probably doesn't make sense to you all, but I see things very clearly.

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You're not 'picky'. Picky is what you are when women throw themselves at you and you refuse most of them.

You just want to turn her down before she turns you down. That's all it is.
No it is not. I've got past that fear. This is something else.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,315
I don't expect to have "everything" on a plate or have everything figured out. But let me put it this way. I get what you're saying. Relationships work a certain way, and both men and the women have a role to play. Men are the ones who always gotta make the first move, be the initiators and all of that shit. All y'all do that so very well and truly deserve the illustrious experiences you've had. My problem is that I cannot play that role. I'm just not wired that way. I've tried to follow all of the advice I see here and ones given by friends and the internet. I've seen all of it and I really can't do it all. I used to feel like I was swimming up the river when I tried to do that. Felt like I was not being myself and just being someone else and following someone else's instructions, and I never liked that. The older I got and the more I tried, it just got worse. Like a fish out of water trying to climb a tree. There's just something wrong, or some disconnect due to which I just can't be like the rest of the menfolk.

I know you're gonna say that this is all BS, or that I'm overthinking it and I shouldn't. But I don't see any other way. I've always been an outcast and I have a feeling deep down inside that I'm not meant for relationships and that it's just futile to try. I obviously don't want it to be true cos I like anyone else have the evolutionary need to fuck and reproduce, but this is who I am and I need to accept it and work with it. I know it's just a matter of time before I completely lose interest in it all. This probably doesn't make sense to you all, but I see things very clearly.

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No it is not. I've got past that fear. This is something else.
You say that's not it, yet your own post clearly contradicts that statement.

Of course you're fucking built for relationships. Everyone is.

And you don't have to lead or do god knows what. You just need to talk to women and have fun with them. No need to put pressure on every single interaction.
 

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