Maddy

Oracle of Copenhagen
Jul 10, 2009
16,545
i dont know how familiar you are with friedman, but if not enough i highly suggest you check him out more, you will be surprised especially in the austerity discourse
I'm quite familiar with him, thanks. I respect him as an intellectual and a scientist, but his naive beliefs in the free market and the wonders it does, and his view on big government is something I don't agree with.
 

Fred

Senior Member
Oct 2, 2003
41,113
One size does not fit all guys, the example of Scandinavian countries does not mean big government is the best model, and the example of the US does not mean neo liberalism and deregulation is the best model.

One thing about Friedman though, is that he's one great speaker, man when I listen to his videos, he has this uncanny way of convincing you with his views, whenever I watch his videos I feel myself turning into a neoliberal :p
 

JuveJay

Senior Signor
Moderator
Mar 6, 2007
74,980
One thing about Friedman though, is that he's one great speaker, man when I listen to his videos, he has this uncanny way of convincing you with his views, whenever I watch his videos I feel myself turning into a neoliberal :p
Imagine what could have happened if those kind of speakers were around the uneducated masses in say, the 1st or 6th centuries? :D
 

Maddy

Oracle of Copenhagen
Jul 10, 2009
16,545
One size does not fit all guys, the example of Scandinavian countries does not mean big government is the best model, and the example of the US does not mean neo liberalism and deregulation is the best model.

One thing about Friedman though, is that he's one great speaker, man when I listen to his videos, he has this uncanny way of convincing you with his views, whenever I watch his videos I feel myself turning into a neoliberal :p
There's no truth in economics and obviously there's regional and cultural differences that needs to be taken into account, which is exactly why I find the "big government is inefficient" wrong.

Denmark is the best place in the World to start a business according to Forbes and some of the reasons why is exactly big government such as Flexicurity.

Besides I wouldn't call Obama's policies neo-liberal. Neo-liberal is Angela's work. Obama have been a great lefty, which is why 'Merican economy is doing better than European (EU) in terms of growth.
 

swag

L'autista
Administrator
Sep 23, 2003
84,784
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GordoDeCentral

Diez
Moderator
Apr 14, 2005
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What ever his title. He was a major adviser for both Reagan and Thatcher.
thats just not true, like i said he was used to get them in office since he was popular at the time, neither of those followed his policies

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Maddy

Oracle of Copenhagen
Jul 10, 2009
16,545
thats just not true, like i said he was used to get them in office since he was popular at the time, neither of those followed his policies
I guess the author of Friedman's biography is lying then as well as the White House.

Friedman served as an unofficial adviser to Ronald Reagan during his 1980 presidential campaign, and then served on the President's Economic Policy Advisory Board for the rest of the Reagan Administration. Ebenstein says Friedman was "the 'guru' of the Reagan administration."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milton_Friedman#Retirement

The President announced today his intention to form the President's Economic Policy Advisory Board. The Board will be composed of economic experts from outside the Government and will meet every 3 or 4 months to advise the President with respect to the conduct and objectives of both domestic and international economic policy of the United States. The Board will work with Secretary of the Treasury Donald Regan, who will have principal responsibility for economic policy in the administration.

The members of the Board will be:
Milton Friedman, senior research fellow, the Hoover Institution, and Nobel Laureate in economics.
http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=43243&st=advisory+board&st1=
 

Hængebøffer

Senior Member
Jun 4, 2009
25,185
One size does not fit all guys, the example of Scandinavian countries does not mean big government is the best model, and the example of the US does not mean neo liberalism and deregulation is the best model.

One thing about Friedman though, is that he's one great speaker, man when I listen to his videos, he has this uncanny way of convincing you with his views, whenever I watch his videos I feel myself turning into a neoliberal :p
Friedmann was the opposite of a neoliberal.
 

Ocelot

Midnight Marauder
Jul 13, 2013
18,943
One size does not fit all guys, the example of Scandinavian countries does not mean big government is the best model, and the example of the US does not mean neo liberalism and deregulation is the best model.
I'd say that while big government certainly doesn't guarantee broad welfare or efficiency, far from it, I've yet to see a convincing functioning system that works without big government, neither in theory nor in practice.
 

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