Dostoevsky

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University education (recent graduate or final year student) Fluent English knowledge, spoken as well as written Good MS Office knowledge (Excel, Word) Knowledge of administrative and legal terminology

Might be a retarded question but can someone please explain me what exactly is that? :shifty:

The company is marketing/HR directed.
 

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University education (recent graduate or final year student) Fluent English knowledge, spoken as well as written Good MS Office knowledge (Excel, Word) Knowledge of administrative and legal terminology

Might be a retarded question but can someone please explain me what exactly is that? :shifty:

The company is marketing/HR directed.
Words used in legal writing. Probably have to make sure the things you produce are within legal and ethical guides of the local laws and regulations.

See if you understand this..

2.6.3.4.a. General Rule – The farm must produce for sale, consumption or use agricultural products (as listed in the definition Farm purposes in Section 2.5 of these regulations) having a fair market value to the producer of at least one thousand dollars ($1,000), including any government subsidies or payments for farm products which may be given away: or
 

Dostoevsky

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Words used in legal writing. Probably have to make sure the things you produce are within legal and ethical guides of the local laws and regulations.

See if you understand this..

2.6.3.4.a. General Rule – The farm must produce for sale, consumption or use agricultural products (as listed in the definition Farm purposes in Section 2.5 of these regulations) having a fair market value to the producer of at least one thousand dollars ($1,000), including any government subsidies or payments for farm products which may be given away: or
Pretty lame if they mean local laws, I know nothing about such. Pretty weird add... but this is actually the first company that asks for an employee without any working experience in that area (usually it's 3-5 years and I can't even apply for goddamn job).

Yeah I can understand that perfectly.

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But I just noticed it's a part-time job.. which is basically :tdown:
 

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Pretty lame if they mean local laws, I know nothing about such. Pretty weird add... but this is actually the first company that asks for an employee without any working experience in that area (usually it's 3-5 years and I can't even apply for goddamn job).

Yeah I can understand that perfectly.
I guess you just need to understand and be able to utilize the vocabulary of legal procedures, which is used in law paragraphs and courts. I don't suppose the requirements actually include knowledge of the actual laws though.
 

Dostoevsky

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I guess you just need to understand and be able to utilize the vocabulary of legal procedures, which is used in law paragraphs and courts. I don't suppose the requirements actually include knowledge of the actual laws though.
I thought of that at first but position is for an administrative support in marketing.

Main responsibilities:

Providing support for Marketing Manager and the rest of the department
Preparing and arranging files and documentation
Support in organizing events, such as lectures and symposia
Contact with vendors, finding best offers for accommodation, transport, conference rooms etc.


I couldn't really connect the two so it's why I asked. I'm not really sure. But I think it's a pretty shit job.. on the other hand, it's probably better than none. I just find it annoying how nobody wants recent graduates for any job out there, they all ask for 3-5 year of experience which is totally insane.
 

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Pretty lame if they mean local laws, I know nothing about such. Pretty weird add... but this is actually the first company that asks for an employee without any working experience in that area (usually it's 3-5 years and I can't even apply for goddamn job).

Yeah I can understand that perfectly.

- - - Updated - - -

But I just noticed it's a part-time job.. which is basically :tdown:
They probably just want to know that you can understand legal writing. So if you can, then I would apply especially if it's in your field. Even if it's only part time. You'll get experience and have time to look for other opportunities.
 

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They probably just want to know that you can understand legal writing. So if you can, then I would apply especially if it's in your field. Even if it's only part time. You'll get experience and have time to look for other opportunities.
My field is economics and finance. But I went to business school, so I can apply for marketing, HR, accounting and all kind of jobs. Theoretically at least :D
 

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I thought of that at first but position is for an administrative support in marketing.

Main responsibilities:

Providing support for Marketing Manager and the rest of the department
Preparing and arranging files and documentation
Support in organizing events, such as lectures and symposia
Contact with vendors, finding best offers for accommodation, transport, conference rooms etc.


I couldn't really connect the two so it's why I asked. I'm not really sure. But I think it's a pretty shit job.. on the other hand, it's probably better than none. I just find it annoying how nobody wants recent graduates for any job out there, they all ask for 3-5 year of experience which is totally insane.
I did a lot of that sort of stuff for a gig I had 2 jobs ago. It's not bad work if you don't mind research. Plus it's experience, if they want 3-5 years then you have to start somewhere.
 

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I did a lot of that sort of stuff for a gig I had 2 jobs ago. It's not bad work if you don't mind research. Plus it's experience, if they want 3-5 years then you have to start somewhere.
I'm totally fine with starting someone but it's usually 3-5 years of experience in x field. So let's say I had the experience for marketing, I basically can't apply for any finance related job. Pretty hard shit really... and every economics/finance related job requires years of experience, but from that field. I considering an internship but I don't think 3 months of it would change much :boh: I'm also considering a harakiri.

I don't mind the job itself, I think I'd do it and I find that research interesting. I just don't like the fact I'll end up having zero experience for my field of work.
 

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I'm totally fine with starting someone but it's usually 3-5 years of experience in x field. So let's say I had the experience for marketing, I basically can't apply for any finance related job. Pretty hard shit really... and every economics/finance related job requires years of experience, but from that field. I considering an internship but I don't think 3 months of it would change much :boh: I'm also considering a harakiri.

I don't mind the job itself, I think I'd do it and I find that research interesting. I just don't like the fact I'll end up having zero experience for my field of work.
You'll have to get creative when applying to jobs in the financial sector. I'm sure there are things you will do in this job that will apply to others. Also, one thing to consider is the opportunities available once you get into a company. Many times companies would rather hire people from within for good positions rather than outside applicants. As for your field of work, that's basically any position you can get that's close to the financial sector. Whether you're working for a marketing company or a stock brokerage you're still working in the financial industry. So don't limit yourself by dismissing opportunities if they don't fit your exact checklist. Remember if you take a job now, you don't have to do if for the rest of your life. Only until you're tired of doing it or you find something better to do.
 

Raz

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I thought of that at first but position is for an administrative support in marketing.

Main responsibilities:

Providing support for Marketing Manager and the rest of the department
Preparing and arranging files and documentation
Support in organizing events, such as lectures and symposia
Contact with vendors, finding best offers for accommodation, transport, conference rooms etc.


I couldn't really connect the two so it's why I asked. I'm not really sure. But I think it's a pretty shit job.. on the other hand, it's probably better than none. I just find it annoying how nobody wants recent graduates for any job out there, they all ask for 3-5 year of experience which is totally insane.
It's all about connections. Here where I live, you can be second year student and get a good place with lot's of opportunities in future if you're connected. And if not, you're ether fucked or have to start something your own.
 

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You'll have to get creative when applying to jobs in the financial sector. I'm sure there are things you will do in this job that will apply to others. Also, one thing to consider is the opportunities available once you get into a company. Many times companies would rather hire people from within for good positions rather than outside applicants. As for your field of work, that's basically any position you can get that's close to the financial sector. Whether you're working for a marketing company or a stock brokerage you're still working in the financial industry. So don't limit yourself by dismissing opportunities if they don't fit your exact checklist. Remember if you take a job now, you don't have to do if for the rest of your life. Only until you're tired of doing it or you find something better to do.
I didn't know that tbh. As for the hiring for better position within a company, I read about it in one of my subjects, but whenever I told it to someone here they were like 'wake up, such thing doesn't exist in this country' which is kind of a let-down, since those things sound pretty great. But yeah I totally agree with how you put it. I'll apply for it and see what happens.

One more thing: Out of experience of others, people always tell me how applying for such job never works and how nobody gets the job (here). They say it's only a formal thing they have to do but nobody gets hired as they already know in advance who will get the job. It's not that I believe that but 90% of the people told me not even to look at such adds for job (the only site for it actually). So much negativity in the country regarding jobs, it's pretty hard to see any light. :sigh:

*(there are also around 2000 people applying for my job, or any job in my field)

It's all about connections. Here where I live, you can be second year student and get a good place with lot's of opportunities in future if you're connected. And if not, you're ether fucked or have to start something your own.
It's basically the same here with some difference, like, I had and tried using my connections and talking directly with two CEO's and even with them I ended up empty handed cause I was told the situation in public sector is pretty horrible and too hard to get hired (I already mentioned before, just recently we added some law how employment is frozen in public sector till the end of 2015. It's still possible to get a job there but government needs to confirm it, which is a real hell at the moment). As for starting something your own, pretty hard as well. Wages here are horrible while banks are terrorizing, it's too hard to find starting capital and manage to survive at least one year in the market.
 

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I didn't know that tbh. As for the hiring for better position within a company, I read about it in one of my subjects, but whenever I told it to someone here they were like 'wake up, such thing doesn't exist in this country' which is kind of a let-down, since those things sound pretty great. But yeah I totally agree with how you put it. I'll apply for it and see what happens.

One more thing: Out of experience of others, people always tell me how applying for such job never works and how nobody gets the job (here). They say it's only a formal thing they have to do but nobody gets hired as they already know in advance who will get the job. It's not that I believe that but 90% of the people told me not even to look at such adds for job (the only site for it actually). So much negativity in the country regarding jobs, it's pretty hard to see any light. :sigh:

*(there are also around 2000 people applying for my job, or any job in my field)
I would just keep at it. If you can deliver your apps in person so they have to see your face. Write a good cover letter. Do everything you can do.
 

Raz

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It's basically the same here with some difference, like, I had and tried using my connections and talking directly with two CEO's and even with them I ended up empty handed cause I was told the situation in public sector is pretty horrible and too hard to get hired (I already mentioned before, just recently we added some law how employment is frozen in public sector till the end of 2015. It's still possible to get a job there but government needs to confirm it, which is a real hell at the moment). As for starting something your own, pretty hard as well. Wages here are horrible while banks are terrorizing, it's too hard to find starting capital and manage to survive at least one year in the market.
Man that sucks... It's ain't that bad here for sure. Though now it's kind of hard with banks here too compared with what was 5 years ago. It's very grim what you saying.
 

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