What Are You Doing Right Now? (192 Viewers)

[swag]

Yep. But there are ways around it. They have to instruct their staff to never used the A-word (age) and instead talk in terms of qualifications for the jobs, such as difficult and challenging hours that could change at the last moment, blah blah blah... Basically all the stuff that could, by proxy, rule out adults with adult-type responsibilities outside of the job.

It's how it works, unfortunately.

 

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[swag]

Greg's just mad because this is the beginning of the end for the 1 percent.

No, actually it's probably the beginning of a global phenomenon of more winner-take-all at the top, with the middle classes completely getting squeezed to either fall into the few of the 1% category or the ugly lot of the bottom 99 who fends just to get by.

 

[Enron]

Yep. But there are ways around it. They have to instruct their staff to never used the A-word (age) and instead talk in terms of qualifications for the jobs, such as difficult and challenging hours that could change at the last moment, blah blah blah... Basically all the stuff that could, by proxy, rule out adults with adult-type responsibilities outside of the job.

It's how it works, unfortunately.

Just don't put unofficial policies on paper like everyone else does.

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No, actually it's probably the beginning of a global phenomenon of more winner-take-all at the top, with the middle classes completely getting squeezed to either fall into the few of the 1% category or the ugly lot of the bottom 99 who fends just to get by.

So you think it will speed up the current trend?

 

[swag]

Yup. That's the recipe for how you lose $8 billion class-action lawsuits.

 

[ALC]

so the ratio will be like 5% rich and 95% poor is what you're saying?

 

[swag]

So you think it will speed up the current trend?

I dunno. The current trend is disturbing to me, but I don't see a way out of it yet. France is fucked. Most Americans are fucked. The only people who really stand to benefit as I see it right now are a select few entrepreneurial types around the globe and "undiscovered" talent in places like SE Asia and other hellholes where school children rank just above food.

And no -- I expect more 1/2 percent before a 5 percent.

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

so the ratio will be like 5% rich and 95% poor is what you're saying?

I think it's been that way since 1837.

Depends on your definition of each category, of course.

 

[Ragazza]

But what gets done in a fast food restaurant isn't worth $15/hour, IMO.

Yup, the day those guys make more than me when I have to constantly deal with bitchy rich Palo Alto women will be a sad one

I worked a lot of retail as well. Gotta love it when the boss calls you into the office to let you know you've earn that 16 cent raise.

Haha, my very first job was in a call center environment, and I was so excited when I heard I would be getting a raise... til I found out it was just from $8/hr to $8.10 That extra $10 a month certainly did wonders.

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

I dunno. The current trend is disturbing to me, but I don't see a way out of it yet. France is fucked. Most Americans are fucked. The only people who really stand to benefit as I see it right now are a select few entrepreneurial types around the globe and "undiscovered" talent in places like SE Asia and other hellholes where school children rank just above food.

And no -- I expect more 1/2 percent before a 5 percent.

....are you insinuating we start to eat school children?

I like where your mind's at.

 

[ALC]

I think it's been that way since 1837.

Depends on your definition of each category, of course.

I mean as in no more middle class. Or the gap widening by so much that only two classes exist anymore.

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

Haha, my very first job was in a call center environment, and I was so excited when I heard I would be getting a raise... til I found out it was just from $8/hr to $8.10 That extra $10 a month certainly did wonders.

Enron and I also work in call centers.

However, your math is off.... it would be $16!

 

[X Æ A-12]

That's why you all have to get a job that gives tips. I get minimum wage from my employer yet I actually make more like 20-25$ an hour because of tips.

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

I mean as in no more middle class. Or the gap widening by so much that only two classes exist anymore.

The rich get richer, the poor, poorer.

One thing that really opened my eyes was when I was a Women's Studies minor in college for a year. The majority of the classes are history-based, and socially based, like social work. Well it's crazy how if you make x amount of money a year, then you get so many tax breaks and it's ALMOST okay to live on. As soon as you make y amount, which is about 5% above x (we're talking the difference between like $22,000 and $24,500 a year) the tax breaks go away and all of a sudden, everything in your life is 35% more expensive.

So you get more money overall, but it means for less of a life or a living. So that's why a lot of the poor are content to stay that way.

 

[swag]

....are you insinuating we start to eat school children?

I like where your mind's at.

Dig these drumsticks... just $7 a pound.

 

[ALC]

The rich get richer, the poor, poorer.

One thing that really opened my eyes was when I was a Women's Studies minor in college for a year. The majority of the classes are history-based, and socially based, like social work. Well it's crazy how if you make x amount of money a year, then you get so many tax breaks and it's ALMOST okay to live on. As soon as you make y amount, which is about 5% above x (we're talking the difference between like $22,000 and $24,500 a year) the tax breaks go away and all of a sudden, everything in your life is 35% more expensive.

So you get more money overall, but it means for less of a life or a living. So that's why a lot of the poor are content to stay that way.

wow, i didn't know it was that bad.

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The rich get richer, the poor, poorer.

One thing that really opened my eyes was when I was a Women's Studies minor in college for a year. The majority of the classes are history-based, and socially based, like social work. Well it's crazy how if you make x amount of money a year, then you get so many tax breaks and it's ALMOST okay to live on. As soon as you make y amount, which is about 5% above x (we're talking the difference between like $22,000 and $24,500 a year) the tax breaks go away and all of a sudden, everything in your life is 35% more expensive.

So you get more money overall, but it means for less of a life or a living. So that's why a lot of the poor are content to stay that way.

wow, i didn't know it was that bad.

 

[Enron]

Enron and I also work in call centers.

However, your math is off.... it would be $16!

We're poster boys for the under employed. Nothing says your company's in trouble like losing your 401k match for non-existent stock that you lose if you ever leave the company, including retirement.

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

That's why you all have to get a job that gives tips. I get minimum wage from my employer yet I actually make more like 20-25$ an hour because of tips.

I'm not giving handies in the back of a Best Buy, fuckface.

 

[swag]

I'm not sure if I quite agree with Burke there. The tax breaks get creative after a certain point. Thus the only people who pay taxes often end up being the middle class who earn too much to escape the poverty breaks but earn too little to have access to the many loopholes and exceptions that investments and tax accountants can dream up.

So there comes a point at which the rich do get richer, regardless of the step up in their income tax rate.

 

[swag]

We're poster boys for the under employed. Nothing says your company's in trouble like losing your 401k match for non-existent stock that you lose if you ever leave the company, including retirement.

So true. It sucks, but you've got a ridiculous amount of company.

(Even I haven't had a 401k in 2 years... match or no match. )

I'm not giving handies in the back of a Best Buy, fuckface.

That's precisely what I was thinking.

 

[Ragazza]

Enron and I also work in call centers.

However, your math is off.... it would be $16!

It was part time.

That's why you all have to get a job that gives tips. I get minimum wage from my employer yet I actually make more like 20-25$ an hour because of tips.

I assume you work in a restaurant or something? California is a state that pays minimum wage + tips, but some states don't & can get away with paying a ridiculously low wage because they say the tips make up for it.