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L'autista
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Sep 23, 2003
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Greg, check the youtube thread plz :D

Some events from your hometown were videotaped. :p
Hometown nothing. That's the 16th & Mission BART station, which is about two miles up from my house. I call it the "Plasticuffs Station", because at 10pm you will always find a police squad car up on the sidewalk and several people face down in the plaza wearing plasticuffs while they're getting apprehended.

Man, that dude took some serious drugs...
 

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ALC

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Oct 28, 2010
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Hometown nothing. That's the 16th & Mission BART station, which is about two miles up from my house. I call it the "Plasticuffs Station", because at 10pm you will always find a police squad car up on the sidewalk and several people face down in the plaza wearing plasticuffs while they're getting apprehended.

Man, that dude took some serious drugs...
That's pretty close.

And yeah, that was some serious stuff he must've taken :lol: I was kinda impressed with his acrobatics, on the other hand.
 

Klin

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May 27, 2009
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A guy could carry a 6-year-old boy by the neck and throw him into the fence, and few would care. Some might even laugh, suggesting he's a troublemaking kid and deserved it.

But if it's a dog or cat that gets thrown, people go apeshit.
Yes, I'm sure people would have applauded the guy had he done that to a 6-year-old boy.
 

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L'autista
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Sep 23, 2003
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Yes, I'm sure people would have applauded the guy had he done that to a 6-year-old boy.
Now don't act like this phenomenon doesn't exist. People will donate thousands of dollars to aid an injured pet, but an injured black kid without health insurance gets, "Tough luck...that's life in the big city."

A number of people treat animals with more respect and reverence than people. Many often do so out of some self-appointed psychological need to "defend the defenseless," whereas a six-year-old boy -- who ranks as a fellow human and with rights observed by a court system -- can get far less sympathy.

In other words, a lot of people rush to the defense of animals over people because they can personally claim a kind of "lordship" over them, whereas a fellow human being is a potential rival with rival rights and the capacity to hurt them, either physically, financially, or even emotionally. Hence they get much less sympathy, and sympathy is offered more readily to an entity (animals, etc.) that the person feels they can "control" and not feel threatened by.

This is the biggest dirty secret within the animal rights movement that no animal rights group will face up to.
 

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L'autista
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Sep 23, 2003
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Never said it justified his idiocy. Just that abuse situations like that can often get far more public sympathy when it's an animal and not a human, which just seems wrong, IMO.

Physical abuses of people happen, and it's called "getting punk'd" and is fair entertainment in some circles. You have the same treatment given to an animal, and a large group of people will freak out of their minds and share it all over the Internet.

Given all the cruelty in the world, I find it odd that the stuff perpetrated on animals is what seems to get shared and highlighted more often.
 

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Diez
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Never said it justified his idiocy. Just that abuse situations like that can often get far more public sympathy when it's an animal and not a human, which just seems wrong, IMO.

Physical abuses of people happen, and it's called "getting punk'd" and is fair entertainment in some circles. You have the same treatment given to an animal, and a large group of people will freak out of their minds and share it all over the Internet.

Given all the cruelty in the world, I find it odd that the stuff perpetrated on animals is what seems to get shared and highlighted more often.


it is the asme fallacy as violence against men compared to that against women, women just like animals are perceived as weak and susceptible to abuse and therefore should get more protection and highlight than violence against the traditional perpetrators: men. However, historically, no group has seen as much systematic abuse as men.
 

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Jun 17, 2011
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Now don't act like this phenomenon doesn't exist. People will donate thousands of dollars to aid an injured pet, but an injured black kid without health insurance gets, "Tough luck...that's life in the big city."

A number of people treat animals with more respect and reverence than people. Many often do so out of some self-appointed psychological need to "defend the defenseless," whereas a six-year-old boy -- who ranks as a fellow human and with rights observed by a court system -- can get far less sympathy.

In other words, a lot of people rush to the defense of animals over people because they can personally claim a kind of "lordship" over them, whereas a fellow human being is a potential rival with rival rights and the capacity to hurt them, either physically, financially, or even emotionally. Hence they get much less sympathy, and sympathy is offered more readily to an entity (animals, etc.) that the person feels they can "control" and not feel threatened by.

This is the biggest dirty secret within the animal rights movement that no animal rights group will face up to.
I've wanted to +rep you at least 5 times in the last few days and tuz just won't let me.
 

Kate

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Feb 7, 2011
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Now don't act like this phenomenon doesn't exist. People will donate thousands of dollars to aid an injured pet, but an injured black kid without health insurance gets, "Tough luck...that's life in the big city."

A number of people treat animals with more respect and reverence than people. Many often do so out of some self-appointed psychological need to "defend the defenseless," whereas a six-year-old boy -- who ranks as a fellow human and with rights observed by a court system -- can get far less sympathy.

In other words, a lot of people rush to the defense of animals over people because they can personally claim a kind of "lordship" over them, whereas a fellow human being is a potential rival with rival rights and the capacity to hurt them, either physically, financially, or even emotionally. Hence they get much less sympathy, and sympathy is offered more readily to an entity (animals, etc.) that the person feels they can "control" and not feel threatened by.

This is the biggest dirty secret within the animal rights movement that no animal rights group will face up to.
I was just thinking this the other day, about that Filipino dog who saved a kid, but lost its snout in the meantime, and people paid something like $27,000 for this dog to be flown to the US for facial reconstructive surgery. What about kids who need medicine, or people needing food, and what if the dog gets hit by a car on its first day back in Manila?
 

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L'autista
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Sep 23, 2003
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it is the asme fallacy as violence against men compared to that against women, women just like animals are perceived as weak and susceptible to abuse and therefore should get more protection and highlight than violence against the traditional perpetrators: men. However, historically, no group has seen as much systematic abuse as men.
Controvertial, but true. Some good points were made in the courts recently about women on death row sentences: do the jurors have to feel threatened by the person in order to vote for the death penalty? It makes you take pause and think about your motivations.

I've wanted to +rep you at least 5 times in the last few days and tuz just won't let me.
:lol: Here I was worried I was being too much of an irritant lately. :kiss:

I was just thinking this the other day, about that Filipino dog who saved a kid, but lost its snout in the meantime, and people paid something like $27,000 for this dog to be flown to the US for facial reconstructive surgery. What about kids who need medicine, or people needing food, and what if the dog gets hit by a car on its first day back in Manila?
Totally great example. Which isn't to admonish people who have the heart to help out a dog. But there's some worthy soul-searching here when we show a generosity towards animals that we wouldn't towards our fellow human beings.
 

Jem83

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I was just thinking this the other day, about that Filipino dog who saved a kid, but lost its snout in the meantime, and people paid something like $27,000 for this dog to be flown to the US for facial reconstructive surgery. What about kids who need medicine, or people needing food, and what if the dog gets hit by a car on its first day back in Manila?
Are you saying humans are worth more than dogs?
 

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