IrishZebra

Western Imperialist
Jun 18, 2006
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I know, honey, but it's out of your hands. Be what you are, and be a good friend, but you were not in this relationship, and it is not your place to punish her. You also can't do anything if he does decide to get back with her, which I sincerely hope he doesn't, but that is his choice to make too.
No offence but if a male friend didn't call me on my bullshit decisions, he wouldn't be a friend.
 

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WΏΏdy?

Senior Member
Dec 23, 2005
14,997
Fuck the whole idea of letting karma get to the bad guys or leaving everything on a chance that they might feel miserable. I mean who cares if she is miserable or not,i just want my friend to blow hot and let out his frustrations.
 

Kate

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Feb 7, 2011
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No offence but if a male friend didn't call me on my bullshit decisions, he wouldn't be a friend.
Oh you can call them on it, but you can't interfere in the way that he was talking about before. Sure, say it every five seconds that she's a bitch slut who doesn't deserve his respect, but you can't take matters into your own hands.
 

WΏΏdy?

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Dec 23, 2005
14,997
I know, honey, but it's out of your hands. Be what you are, and be a good friend, but you were not in this relationship, and it is not your place to punish her. You also can't do anything if he does decide to get back with her, which I sincerely hope he doesn't, but that is his choice to make too.
I am a good friend kate,that is why i dont want him to get back with her. This is not the first complication that he has been in. Their relationship history is long and eventful and if you knew all you would say "fuck that bitch" ;)
 
Apr 15, 2006
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Then you should run even faster.
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WΏΏdy;3219239 said:
I am a good friend kate,that is why i dont want him to get back with her. This is not the first complication that he has been in. Their relationship history is long and eventful and if you knew all you would say "fuck that bitch" ;)
What is her dating history? Cos she sounds like a horrible person.
 

IrishZebra

Western Imperialist
Jun 18, 2006
23,327
Oh you can call them on it, but you can't interfere in the way that he was talking about before. Sure, say it every five seconds that she's a bitch slut who doesn't deserve his respect, but you can't take matters into your own hands.
Well yeah, that's just assault then.

WΏΏdy;3219236 said:
Fuck the whole idea of letting karma get to the bad guys or leaving everything on a chance that they might feel miserable. I mean who cares if she is miserable or not,i just want my friend to blow hot and let out his frustrations.
Thank you.
 

WΏΏdy?

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Dec 23, 2005
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What is her dating history? Cos she sounds like a horrible person.
I dont know about her dating history but i do know about her and my friend's relationship history and she is the most manipulative bitch ive ever seen,and ive seen a lot :D My friend is also at fault coz sometimes he's a dumb fuck but i am glad he broke it off after she cheated on him. At least he is that strong.
 

WΏΏdy?

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Dec 23, 2005
14,997
Here is my whole take on the cheating issue. You never EVER EVER get back with a girl or a boy who cheats on you. Because there is no situation acceptable that you can cheat in.Absolutely not.
 

Kate

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Feb 7, 2011
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WΏΏdy;3219252 said:
Here is my whole take on the cheating issue. You never EVER EVER get back with a girl or a boy who cheats on you. Because there is no situation acceptable that you can cheat in.Absolutely not.
I would respectfully disagree here too, it's not that simple ;)

Though my disagreeing is more to do with not always leaving someone who has cheated on you.
 

Kate

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Feb 7, 2011
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If James cheated on you, what would be your natural response? Just curious.
I really don't know. When the last one cheated on me, it was leave, but he was an arsehole in many respects. Whereas James is very kind by nature, and very loyal, so I would really wonder why he did it. I would likely walk out in panic/hurt, but conversation would happen later and I wouldn't rule out the relationship continuing.

Woody said:
Give me an acceptable situation where cheating is justified.
Your partner is severely clinically depressed and you go to a prostitute/sleep with a friend on a drunken night out to relieve the stress you have been under in trying to support the person you love.
 
Apr 15, 2006
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I really don't know. When the last one cheated on me, it was leave, but he was an arsehole in many respects. Whereas James is very kind by nature, and very loyal, so I would really wonder why he did it. I would likely walk out in panic/hurt, but conversation would happen later and I wouldn't rule out the relationship continuing.



Your partner is severely clinically depressed and you go to a prostitute/sleep with a friend on a drunken night out to relieve the stress you have been under in trying to support the person you love.
Strange.
 

Kate

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Feb 7, 2011
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WΏΏdy;3219270 said:
I know what u mean kate. But girls are generally forgiving in issues like this :) That always works against you.
Not always. I, for one, am surprisingly unforgiving despite everything I am saying here. I'm just trying to be practical. We work to protect ourselves as much as anyone else. If it does come to the point where you essentially devote your life to another person and they devote theirs to you, there are many complications that will undoubtedly arise that don't let you off the hook that easily. What if your partner has a stroke, or is in an accident that leaves them paralyzed? Cheating at that point is more of a catharsis than anything.
 

icemaη

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But those conditions you talk about are very extreme Kate. And even then it's hardly justifiable. You put your trust in someone and that someone puts their trust in you, then breaking it is the biggest sin... Hello btw :D
 

WΏΏdy?

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Dec 23, 2005
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Not always. I, for one, am surprisingly unforgiving despite everything I am saying here. I'm just trying to be practical. We work to protect ourselves as much as anyone else. If it does come to the point where you essentially devote your life to another person and they devote theirs to you, there are many complications that will undoubtedly arise that don't let you off the hook that easily. What if your partner has a stroke, or is in an accident that leaves them paralyzed? Cheating at that point is more of a catharsis than anything.
In those situations i dont think it is considered cheating (but still not justified). So i cannot consider your argument against mine :)

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Sep 23, 2003
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Just imagine how great a world we'd be in right now if everybody was dignified and let it go to take a socially constructed moral high-ground...

People could behave however they want safe in the knowledge that the only consequence would be some douchebag being smug to themselves saying they've taken the dignified route. There's no hard and fast rule, you all seem to think you can either be weak through action OR weak through inaction, you could be both.

You have to look at the context.

There is a time that when someone hits you, you hit back as viciously and callously as you can, to deny that any such situation will exist is very Naive.
Not to go all "jesus says turn the other cheek" on you here, but hitting back is bullshit. The woman has just proven to Woody's friend that she's wasted his time, and the response is to waste more time on someone who is irrelevant?

I don't know how this culturally sits with women, etc., but let me put this another way. If I found out some chick I was interested who got cheated on by her previous boyfriend and I learned she went all psycho revenge on him, I would be inclined to think that she's a sicko and someone I should avoid like the plague. Too emotionally immature. Too much of a head-case. Too petty. Too easy to be irrational and do something destructive if something -- like a lot of things in life -- don't quite go the way she'd hope.

That pretty much would give her the mark of the beast in my book.

I don't know. Maybe women find that behavior in men attractive. Or maybe there are men who think this is culturally required of their honor, just like killing their daughters for having premarital sex and shaming the family name. In any case, it represents a woman I want little if anything to do with.

Rather than merely getting back at her cheating ex-boyfriend, she's just labelled herself as a psycho bitch who is unworthy of my love or commitment.

Greg, I was quite clearly mocking the whole "real men" thing. Obviously it's not the right thing to do. But quite obviously, walking away from it and letting it go is not the right thing to do either. I was clearly exaggerating with the slapping and kidnapping thing. What I meant was there has to be confrontation and the two need to have a talk about it. Simply walking away from the problem and ignoring it completely is not right.
Here's where I am not trying to be the know-it-all American who assumes cultural stereotypes where you're from in India... for a change. :D

That said, walking away and letting it go sounds quite rationally right to me. The woman is dead to him and cannot be trusted. He would be within his right to write her off and leave it at that. Revenge is just a whiny bitch way of trying to hurt someone who hurt you. In the big karma of life, that's just mutually assured destruction.

I would respectfully disagree here too, it's not that simple ;)

Though my disagreeing is more to do with not always leaving someone who has cheated on you.
And I'll actually agree with Kate that there may be rare circumstances where forgiving someone for cheating may not be the end of the world. But talk about a pretty damn high bar.
 

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