Weston “Royale Avec Fromage” McKennie (74 Viewers)

[MikeM]

He should score the most because he is plays with no tactical awareness and just runs towards the box with little thought to what is behind him.

I'll agree that on set pieces he is very good but we need our midfield to act like a midfield and control the game. We saw today and against Inter how badly it performs when Locatelli is crowded out or isolated.

At the same time he was the only one defending Sassuolo's last goal by himself. And he finds balls in the box because his attacking awareness is miles ahead of the other CMs. Come on, never in a million years do you see Rabiot and Benta make those runs.

If you want to sit in an organized team and play him as a DM, then yes, forget it. He will never be good at that.

Ideally you want B2B mids that can attack the box and also have a functioning brain in defense. We haven't had that in like 8 years.

 

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[Turk_Bianconero]

it is not like there is a tactic to be aware of anyway.

 

[Powis]

He's like Tomas Rincon except he gets many minutes.

 

[Boksic]

At the same time he was the only one defending Sassuolo's last goal by himself. And he finds balls in the box because his attacking awareness is miles ahead of the other CMs. Come on, never in a million years do you see Rabiot and Benta make those runs.

If you want to sit in an organized team and play him as a DM, then yes, forget it. He will never be good at that.

Ideally you want B2B mids that can attack the box and also have a functioning brain in defense. We haven't had that in like 8 years.

I can't comment the final goal, I missed it but there were numerous times he got caught out by pushing too far forward and players running off him.

I wouldn't call mindless runs to the box tactical awareness. He times his runs well at times but his movement can be reckless and his finishing is often poor (I'm not sure he had had a shot on target this season before today). To be fair to McKennie and Bentancur we have missed runs from midfield into the box in recent seasons. For his flaws and awful performances last season Bentancur has added it to his game this year and we have had goals from it as a result, either from him or someone else in the same move. He has also managed to combine it with knowing what is behind him to his credit, but we still need better and he is very inconsistent.

I'm not looking for McKennie to be a DM or a Vidal. All I want is a mid who can understand the basics of positioning and tactics as a minimum. If his passing or finishing were outstanding it is easier to overlook the flaws but they aren't.

We need to be looking at how to get our midfield to control a game. I have absolutely no faith that McKennie understands how to do that or the ability to even if he did.

If we were offered 30m we'd be crazy to turn it down. I'd sell all our mids for that money except Locatelli.

 

[Allegri_is_God]

Yeah. He wasn't THAT bad tonight

 

[MikeM]

If we were offered 30m we'd be crazy to turn it down. I'd sell all our mids for that money except Locatelli.

Completely agree

 

[MrMonkey]

I'm done with judging McKenn one way or another from reading critical posts here about his play. It's like he should be smart like a brain surgeon when on the pitch. All I know Max took out Rabiot and not McKenn at HT.

The guy has low IQ soccer intelligence but athleticism out there few on team possess. And guess what he did today, he FINISHED! Something lacking from this team as a whole. How many should have Juve scored today, 2-3?

McKenn is an issue I leave with Max to handle. If he gets transferred out in January or Max keeps him on the bench, that's fine with me.

 

[Hust]

I'm done with judging McKenn one way or another from reading critical posts here about his play. It's like he should be smart like a brain surgeon when on the pitch. All I know Max took out Rabiot and not McKenn at HT.

The guy has low IQ soccer intelligence but athleticism out there few on team possess. And guess what he did today, he FINISHED! Something lacking from this team as a whole. How many should have Juve scored today, 2-3?

McKenn is an issue I leave with Max to handle. If he gets transferred out in January or Max keeps him on the bench, that's fine with me.

McKenn scored. Why the hate?

 

[MrMonkey]

McKenn scored. Why the hate?

No hate from me!!!!!! It's the HATE from majority of the board that you see by the posts. I LIKE the kid lots. It's the others who constantly in a round about way write how stupid he is soccer wise. And after reading my post again, where was the hate from me?

 

[iosono.bianconero]

After the game with Napoli I said he should never start for Juve again.
He scored but was terrible the whole game. Such a poor understanding of the game.

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

Great goal, almost saved us a point along with Dybala.

 

[MrMonkey]

For his flaws and awful performances last season Bentancur has added it to his game this year and we have had goals from it as a result, either from him or someone else in the same move. He has also managed to combine it with knowing what is behind him to his credit, but we still need better and he is very inconsistent.

Well golly .... into his 5th year at Juve and finally makes runs into the box. Still can't be trusted Bent can hit the side of barn with his shot. And with regards to what's behind him Bent regressed the last few years disregarding this year. The guy was during that time a red card waiting to happen. And when under pressure against Porto lol.

So forget getting goals out of him but he serves a purpose defensively but no way I see him being a SamiK in knowing where to be to score goals. And since you missed McKenn's goal today he's scored 6 others in about 2700 Juve minutes while Bent has scored 2 (granted also 17 assists) in 9800 Juve minutes.

And in all fairness you say, maybe post more fairly with regards McKenn not being as bad as you say and Bentancur not being as good as you say.

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

McKennie - Locatelli - Arthur should be our starting midfield until we can bring in some reinforcements.

 

[X Æ A-12]

I agree. Rabiot and Bentancur are no bueno

 

[MrMonkey]

McKennie - Locatelli - Arthur should be our starting midfield until we can bring in some reinforcements.

Wouldn't mind seeing it tried out. I know, probably posters will say so weak defensively. Saw today's highlights ....1st Sass goal Max should have made sure Sandro was awake before subbing him in. And the 2nd ..... even if no goals from Juve that was a 0-0 draw at worst. Stats say enough activity offensively by Juve today with not the expected number of goals.

 

[zizinho]

Wouldn't mind seeing it tried out. I know, probably posters will say so weak defensively. Saw today's highlights ....1st Sass goal Max should have made sure Sandro was awake before subbing him in. And the 2nd ..... even if no goals from Juve that was a 0-0 draw at worst. Stats say enough activity offensively by Juve today with not the expected number of goals.

Look at McK there too, he jogs back instead of closing down the free man Infront of him. Not saying the goal is on him, but it just shows how he doesn't know what he's doing when opposition has the ball. Also, fun fact, he actually kept Lopez onside for the 2nd goal by positioning himself in our half before the Berardi pass

 

[Bianconero81]

Who was it that called him Vidal Lite?

I don't dislike McNuggets, but a player of his ilk has no business starting for a club like Juventus. Unfortunately, the other shits we have, Locatelli aside, are worse, so it is indeed a big problem.

Would I sell him for 30 million? Absolutely. I'd sell our entire midfield for the right amount of cash, but no one is offering a penny for Glassmsey, and some teams would probably baulk @ paying 20 million for the Asexual French Giraffe.

 

[Boksic]

Well golly .... into his 5th year at Juve and finally makes runs into the box. Still can't be trusted Bent can hit the side of barn with his shot. And with regards to what's behind him Bent regressed the last few years disregarding this year. The guy was during that time a red card waiting to happen. And when under pressure against Porto lol.

So forget getting goals out of him but he serves a purpose defensively but no way I see him being a SamiK in knowing where to be to score goals. And since you missed McKenn's goal today he's scored 6 others in about 2700 Juve minutes while Bent has scored 2 (granted also 17 assists) in 9800 Juve minutes.

And in all fairness you say, maybe post more fairly with regards McKenn not being as bad as you say and Bentancur not being as good as you say.

You've completely missed my point.

I'm absolutely not saying Bentancur is any sort of answer for the midfield going forward or defending his performances last season or lack of goals. I'm only pointing out that this season he has adapted his game (or Allegri has instructed him) to get himself in the box, which has resulted in at least 3 goals for the team. He managed to do it while not forgetting how to defend or position yourself well. My point is that it is possible to do it despite being a limited player. He has not performed consistently enough though and unlikely to ever do so.

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

Wouldn't mind seeing it tried out. I know, probably posters will say so weak defensively. Saw today's highlights ....1st Sass goal Max should have made sure Sandro was awake before subbing him in. And the 2nd ..... even if no goals from Juve that was a 0-0 draw at worst. Stats say enough activity offensively by Juve today with not the expected number of goals.

Aside from specific actions, I just don't trust the other two at all. Rabiot supposedly could be a great player, but if he never puts the work in then what's the point? He provides nothing otherwise. On the other hand Bentancur's floor is absolutely non-existent, it is abysmal.

 

[MrMonkey]

Look at McK there too, he jogs back instead of closing down the free man Infront of him. Not saying the goal is on him, but it just shows how he doesn't know what he's doing when opposition has the ball. Also, fun fact, he actually kept Lopez onside for the 2nd goal by positioning himself in our half before the Berardi pass

Lol fun fact ..... another poster analyzing the game like he's performing brain surgery. REALITY CHECK FACT.... LAZY ASS MOVE BY SANDRO 99.99999% reason for goal.

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You've completely missed my point.

I'm absolutely not saying Bentancur is any sort of answer for the midfield going forward or defending his performances last season or lack of goals. I'm only pointing out that this season he has adapted his game (or Allegri has instructed him) to get himself in the box, which has resulted in at least 3 goals for the team. He managed to do it while not forgetting how to defend or position yourself well. My point is that it is possible to do it despite being a limited player. He has not performed consistently enough though and unlikely to ever do so.

You treat Bent with kid gloves all the time. And the complete opposite for McKenn!

I read your Live Matches post at the end of the half. You had to mix in a mention of piss poor McKenn along with the poor play of Morata and Raboit which a blind man could have seen. No post about McKenn being in the right place at the right time for the header?

Bad positioning by McKenn. Like he was thinking he was a CB at the end of the game before last goal. Lol the entire team is a bad position.

You might want to check out the player ratings post in the other thread.