Weston “Royale Avec Fromage” McKennie (32 Viewers)

Jun 16, 2020
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Never going to be WC, not a chance whatsoever.

He could be a squad option in the midfield 3 that Allegri or Conte played, I would like to see that but would need to develop a lot.
He’s playing McKennie as a RM. It’s like when Del Neri used Marchisio as a LM. It’s fucking pathetic

Maybe he’ll never become world class, but the circumstances make it impossible for guys like him to perform

Ffs it’s so frustrating to see
 

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Boksic

Senior Member
May 11, 2005
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He’s playing McKennie as a RM. It’s like when Del Neri used Marchisio as a LM. It’s fucking pathetic

Maybe he’ll never become world class, but the circumstances make it impossible for guys like him to perform

Ffs it’s so frustrating to see
Of course the whole team is difficult to judge in terms of individuals because it is a mess. Just about everyone is not performing.

It's not that I don't like him, I just don't think he will ever be more than a squad player here. He has lots to learn to even get to being a reliable one. Given our financial situation I would cash in if we got a decent offer.
 

ALC

Ohaulick
Oct 28, 2010
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You say my fellow American friend. You also think Carson Wentz will be great with Reich too? Difference is McKenn is a man and could be successful with another manager, Wentz is just a big-baby pussy. Appears Alshon Jeffrey was right about him. The SB seems like decades ago. :sad:
what the hell does Wentz have to do with this? :lol:

but yeah, I think he’ll do better there. I think he’s weak and egotistical, not a good fit for a city like Philly where you need to roll with the punches and the fans boo you. Look at Embiid for the exact opposite character and he’s thriving here.

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Never going to be WC, not a chance whatsoever.

He could be a squad option in the midfield 3 that Allegri or Conte played, I would like to see that but would need to develop a lot.
I think he’s got Marchisio level potential. Not saying it’s a sure thing but he’s a young player with a great engine and good work ethic. Just needs coaches who can guide him and teach him the tactical side of the game
 

Boksic

Senior Member
May 11, 2005
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what the hell does Wentz have to do with this? :lol:

but yeah, I think he’ll do better there. I think he’s weak and egotistical, not a good fit for a city like Philly where you need to roll with the punches and the fans boo you. Look at Embiid for the exact opposite character and he’s thriving here.

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I think he’s got Marchisio level potential. Not saying it’s a sure thing but he’s a young player with a great engine and good work ethic. Just needs coaches who can guide him and teach him the tactical side of the game
Good grief.

He will never reach Marchisio's level, not a chance. Remember he didn't look out of place next to Pogba, Vidal and Pirlo.
 

s4tch

Senior Member
Mar 23, 2015
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he was pretty good in box presence at some point of the season, then he turned to absolute dogshit

we're very badly coached. he's not this awful of a player. but if those 40m offers exist, we should accept it without any hesitation.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
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If we can get our money back I would seriously consider the offer.

Any profit and I wouldn't hesitate.
It's just funny reading comments like this. No offense, but I think it just shows a lack of understanding. Juventus have always had players similar to Mckennie that fulfills a certain role or wins balls. Looking back, you can see Jugovic, Tacchinardi, Sissoko, Sturaro, and even if he isn't on the same planet you can throw Vidal in there too. We've always either had good ball winners or hard runners to either start or fulfill a certain tactical role, with Mckennie being a more modern B2B version of that. So I'm just really perplexed as to why you and others are so quick to say sell no matter what the profit is. I seriously think if Mckennie was Italian nobody would really care that much that we spent 18M on him.

I'd go even further and say that it's simply stupid to just throw away this player especially in how the modern game is played now. It's not like Mckennie is slow and lethargic and can only tackle like Sissoko or run nonstop like Pepe. Under the right guidance it's clear he can fit into the proper system, probably in a midfield 3 where he presses, wins balls, and is basically a box to box. So there's no reason to sell him unless someone offers a massive amount or you're just hellbent on getting rid of a player because you simply don't like him or the people that bought him.
 

DAiDEViL

Senior Member
Feb 21, 2015
65,319
So there's no reason to sell him unless someone offers a massive amount or you're just hellbent on getting rid of a player because you simply don't like him or the people that bought him.
Or perhaps he's just not overly into mediocre midfielders who have no business starting for Juventus.

That said, I'd keep him too. Mostly because of the low wages he's on. Guys like Rabiot and Ramsey should go first.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
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Or perhaps he's just not overly into mediocre midfielders who have no business starting for Juventus.

That said, I'd keep him too. Mostly because of the low wages he's on. Guys like Rabiot and Ramsey should go first.
We have and have had a lot of mediocre players in that case.

What he said makes no business sense at all and it's like Mckennie is 28 and plays for Klopp or something.
 

da_ledgeaun

The Juve Freak
Jun 2, 2007
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The thing i really dont get the most with Pirlo is he is trying too many formations and roles for everyone.. McKennie played his best whenever he was playing as our b2b in the centre, yet Pirlo keeps on changing this and still going back to Benta Rabiot..
We were on great run when Arthur Mckennie were our mids and it worked well, and when Arthur got injured Pirlo just said fuck it i am gonna make so many more change cos i cant accept players getting injured and because you got injured when you are healthy i am not gonna play you at your best position anymore! this happened with Weston and Arthur..
 

Strickland

Senior Member
May 17, 2019
5,863
McKennie reminds me of a young Candreva, tactically all over the place, poor technique, but has heart and a big engine. I think we should keep him and give him a chance under a proper coach, this team desperately needs players who can run and are relatively healthy.
 

Boksic

Senior Member
May 11, 2005
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It's just funny reading comments like this. No offense, but I think it just shows a lack of understanding. Juventus have always had players similar to Mckennie that fulfills a certain role or wins balls. Looking back, you can see Jugovic, Tacchinardi, Sissoko, Sturaro, and even if he isn't on the same planet you can throw Vidal in there too. We've always either had good ball winners or hard runners to either start or fulfill a certain tactical role, with Mckennie being a more modern B2B version of that. So I'm just really perplexed as to why you and others are so quick to say sell no matter what the profit is. I seriously think if Mckennie was Italian nobody would really care that much that we spent 18M on him.

I'd go even further and say that it's simply stupid to just throw away this player especially in how the modern game is played now. It's not like Mckennie is slow and lethargic and can only tackle like Sissoko or run nonstop like Pepe. Under the right guidance it's clear he can fit into the proper system, probably in a midfield 3 where he presses, wins balls, and is basically a box to box. So there's no reason to sell him unless someone offers a massive amount or you're just hellbent on getting rid of a player because you simply don't like him or the people that bought him.
No offense but the American posters are unbelievably defensive about McKennie. It is ironic to bring up the point "if he was Italian". I suspect if that was the case you maybe be assessing him differently.

I totally get you can't have team of Iniestas. I appreciate that you need squad fillers. I even quite like them.

My issue with McKennie is he is so raw. As I said earlier, I like him. My issue is that he cost what 25m or something. It isn't cheap for filler and given our financial issues I'd rather use that money elsewhere if we can get it back. I think we could get a bench player for less, who is more rounded but I agree maybe not as physical.

I'd sell guys like Ramsey (more filler at the moment) before him but I stand by my point that if we got a good offer I think we should consider it.
 

Gigiventus

Senior Member
Mar 3, 2017
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I think he’s got Marchisio level potential. Not saying it’s a sure thing but he’s a young player with a great engine and good work ethic. Just needs coaches who can guide him and teach him the tactical side of the game
An insult to Marchisio, not even close to the same potential in terms of anything: technique, vision, tactical understanding, etc.

McKennie runs, is young, and makes low wages, so yeah, he can stay as a back up. Nothing about him says big talent though.

All of our players showed (or show) more talent than McKennie. Maybe Frabotta is the exception. Even banter players like Rabiot, Bentancur, and Bernardeschi showed clearly more potential. McKennie is a transfer that should have not happened, now that it happened, given that we have more urgent issues, he can stay. If an offer comes for him though, sell ASAP.

There are enough midfielders in the league that do what he does but better.
 

IlCapitano

Senior Member
Dec 16, 2012
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Laughable to blame any single outfield player with Pirlo in charge.

I am not overreacting when I say we don't have a coach at all and this is an unorganized gang of players just happening to wear the same jersey.

Same with Bentancur, Kulusevski, even Ramsey and Rabiot. These are not top level players but to look like complete amateurs cannot be on them.

McKennie has tons of potential and all the characteristics Allegri likes in a midfielder. Aggressive, hard working, smart in the box, gets forward, good in the air.

He's cheap, he's young, he has potential. Should get 2 more years at a minimum unless a complete disaster with a top coach too.
 

Bianconero81

Ageing Veteran
Jan 26, 2009
40,182
what the hell does Wentz have to do with this? :lol:

but yeah, I think he’ll do better there. I think he’s weak and egotistical, not a good fit for a city like Philly where you need to roll with the punches and the fans boo you. Look at Embiid for the exact opposite character and he’s thriving here.

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I think he’s got Marchisio level potential. Not saying it’s a sure thing but he’s a young player with a great engine and good work ethic. Just needs coaches who can guide him and teach him the tactical side of the game
McNuggets is never going to be WC, unless your definition of world class is a hard working slightly above average footballer with an ok footballing brain. Is he a serviceable player? Absolutely? Can he do better under a different coach? Definitely. However, he will never be good enough to command a starting spot in Juventus, at least the Juventus I used to know.
 

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