We can bring thim to Turino (6 Viewers)
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That's great that you can say that "Zlaza just hasn't got what it takes", but do you have anything to back that up? I mean, I've put up some actual evaluation of Zlatan's abilities based up watching him play. Others have put in their own evaluations based upon watching him, and upon statistical fact.
You've come on and made brash, unsupported statements, then suggested that we splash an impossible amount of money to buy two spanish players who haven't been linked to Juve...Other than all that, I completely agree. :groan:
You've come on and made brash, unsupported statements, then suggested that we splash an impossible amount of money to buy two spanish players who haven't been linked to Juve...Other than all that, I completely agree. :groan:
I do like it when people agree with me, and even better when the power of my argument wins the day.
I have of course seen Zlaza play on many occasions- although I must admit not in the flesh, which is the true test of how one relates to a player- and for me he is good but not great and unlikely to become so. We have Trez who is undoubtedly one of the top strikers in the world and to bring in potential for him, would in my view, be detrimental to the balence of the side. now if we were to rid ourselves of that dead weight Di Vio, and replace him with Zlaza, I woulkd be all in favour.
The two so called spanish players would be more than worth splashing out for. Alas I fear you may be right, we do not have the monies needed. Heres the plan then, I hope Moggi is brewing: let Chelski have both Neddi and he of the lovely eyes DP for a bucket full of Geld and we get the next generation of great players with it.
Full proof or wot?
I have of course seen Zlaza play on many occasions- although I must admit not in the flesh, which is the true test of how one relates to a player- and for me he is good but not great and unlikely to become so. We have Trez who is undoubtedly one of the top strikers in the world and to bring in potential for him, would in my view, be detrimental to the balence of the side. now if we were to rid ourselves of that dead weight Di Vio, and replace him with Zlaza, I woulkd be all in favour.
The two so called spanish players would be more than worth splashing out for. Alas I fear you may be right, we do not have the monies needed. Heres the plan then, I hope Moggi is brewing: let Chelski have both Neddi and he of the lovely eyes DP for a bucket full of Geld and we get the next generation of great players with it.
Full proof or wot?
Trezeguet is not a worldclass striker, he's a world class wall. Nedved and Del Piero do all the work and have all the skill, they are basically just kicking the ball off of trez into the net.
Selling both Del Piero and Nedved, our two most creative players, to bringin Joaquin and Torres is anything but fullproof. You have to take into account the likelihood that Torres and/or Jaoquin will flop in Serie A. It's happened to many spanish players before them, and it's not unlikely to happen to them.
Selling both Del Piero and Nedved, our two most creative players, to bringin Joaquin and Torres is anything but fullproof. You have to take into account the likelihood that Torres and/or Jaoquin will flop in Serie A. It's happened to many spanish players before them, and it's not unlikely to happen to them.
who are the many spanish payers you are talking about? It's a new era, smell the coffee brewing and don't get left behind.
If DP is one of our most creative players as you say, and I don't make you wrong, that would be precisely why we are so uncreative.
Trez a wall? Well thank god that this wall keeps banging them in off himself, thats all I can say.
If DP is one of our most creative players as you say, and I don't make you wrong, that would be precisely why we are so uncreative.
Trez a wall? Well thank god that this wall keeps banging them in off himself, thats all I can say.
Are you mad? I can't believe I have to list the La Liga players who've sucked in Serie A despite great performances in spain: Rivaldo, Mendieta, Jose Mari, Kovacevic, etc. Don't make me do all your research....
And Trezeguet never creates a goal for himself! That's ridiculous, he just sits in the box and waits for a good service. Sure he finishes well, but that doesn't make you a world class striker.
Furthermore, Del Piero is one of our most creative players. Who would you say is more creative than Del Piero? Certainly Torres is not, and Joaquin would only be about that same.
And Trezeguet never creates a goal for himself! That's ridiculous, he just sits in the box and waits for a good service. Sure he finishes well, but that doesn't make you a world class striker.
Furthermore, Del Piero is one of our most creative players. Who would you say is more creative than Del Piero? Certainly Torres is not, and Joaquin would only be about that same.
No, you are wrong.
Please do do the researce.
Strikers that just score are not to be found so easily: so that indeed does make Trez world class.
DP is not particularily creative, well not since he got injured a number of years ago.
Maybe Maradona would be a good place for you to strart your researce. And anyway the idea that because a player has played in La Liga, so therfore cannot pla in Seria A is Draconian to say the least.
I hope that this doesn't ruining our potential friendship.
Please do do the researce.
Strikers that just score are not to be found so easily: so that indeed does make Trez world class.
DP is not particularily creative, well not since he got injured a number of years ago.
Maybe Maradona would be a good place for you to strart your researce. And anyway the idea that because a player has played in La Liga, so therfore cannot pla in Seria A is Draconian to say the least.
I hope that this doesn't ruining our potential friendship.
Wait, so now you're saying that because Trezeguet does nothing but score that he's worldclass. So, becuase he can't dribble, or pass, or shoot from range, or cross, or tackle, or even keep the ball; that he is world class? I think that you're being a bit premature on that one. He's scored a lot of goals before, but not only has his tally decreased of late, but he does those other things even worse. If that's what you look for in a striker, then that's your business, but I'd rather have a more complete player, and I can't see any reason why a complete player isn't superior to one who is so one-dimensional as Trezeguet.
Maradona can not be used as an example. Not only is he a legend, but easily one of the top five players of all time, furthermore, that example is a bit dated. I have not said, "that because a player has played in La Liga, so therfore cannot pla in Seria A." My ascertion was that attackers from La Liga generally do not achieve the same form in Serie A as they do in La Liga. The facts back me up that on that point. The last four big transfers from La Liga iwho have been attackers have left their team the next season in disgrace after poor performances. That's not draconian, it's recognising a trend.
Maradona can not be used as an example. Not only is he a legend, but easily one of the top five players of all time, furthermore, that example is a bit dated. I have not said, "that because a player has played in La Liga, so therfore cannot pla in Seria A." My ascertion was that attackers from La Liga generally do not achieve the same form in Serie A as they do in La Liga. The facts back me up that on that point. The last four big transfers from La Liga iwho have been attackers have left their team the next season in disgrace after poor performances. That's not draconian, it's recognising a trend.
I certianly hope that the trend is bucked soon, because I do dearly love some La Liga playes, I think that they wouldl bring a lot of fun to Serie A.
I think that the team would be better off without both of them, because they are only good together. Trezeguet is not good without DP to feed him the ball, and Del Piero is not good without Trezeguet to feed the bal to, and even then sometimes each of them can suck. I'd much rather have a frontline of Zlatan and Di Vaio than Del Piero and Trezeguet...
I think that the team would be better off without both of them, because they are only good together. Trezeguet is not good without DP to feed him the ball, and Del Piero is not good without Trezeguet to feed the bal to, and even then sometimes each of them can suck. I'd much rather have a frontline of Zlatan and Di Vaio than Del Piero and Trezeguet...
