[WC] World Cup 2010 - General Talk Thread (57 Viewers)

Alen

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Apr 2, 2007
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From Europe we should only take teams like Spain, England, Holland, France, Italy and Portugal. The rest are jokes, teams like Croatia, Switzerland, Denmark and the rest are teams that aren't that interesting to watch and would only make for a more boring WC. Plus, you have teams outside SA that are much better than the latter teams. USA, Mexico, Ivory Coast, Egypt and Ghana are much better than the latter teams to be honest.
Let these teams make the world cup semis first, and then we will think about accepting them.


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Sep 1, 2002
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Let these teams make the world cup semis first, and then we will think about accepting them.


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Martin

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Dec 31, 2000
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From Europe we should only take teams like Spain, England, Holland, France, Italy and Portugal. The rest are jokes, teams like Croatia, Switzerland, Denmark and the rest are teams that aren't that interesting to watch and would only make for a more boring WC. Plus, you have teams outside SA that are much better than the latter teams. USA, Mexico, Ivory Coast, Egypt and Ghana are much better than the latter teams to be honest.
Except that Croatia got 3rd place in 98 and that was not a fluke. Bulgaria in 94. Not to mention Sweden has a WC history. Every once in a while there is a "small" team that goes far. It'd be really sad to have a competition with only the "favorites" without a chance for surprises from outside that group.

And what the f is up with Egypt that they can't ever qualify??
 

Fred

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Oct 2, 2003
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Let these teams make the world cup semis first, and then we will think about accepting them.


Here is a 1 million vcash question (If Bianconero gives the correct answer I will give him 5m vcash):

How many Barcelona players won the World Cup?
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Which is better, reaching the semi's once and then either going out of the first round or not qualifying at all for the rest of the times, or reaching the quarters, the second round consistently. I think the latter is better, because the former is more of a fluke.

A team like USA has reached the quarter finals before, and has reached the second round a number of times, plus they did very well in the Confederations Cup last summer and reached the final there beating European champions Spain in the process. Then you have a team like Croatia who did not even qualify for this last WC and lost 4-0 to England in the process, they also lost the second spot to Ukraine who we all know is a shit team. I think its pretty obvious that USA >>>> Croatia.
 

Fred

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Oct 2, 2003
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Except that Croatia got 3rd place in 98 and that was not a fluke. Bulgaria in 94. Not to mention Sweden has a WC history. Every once in a while there is a "small" team that goes far. It'd be really sad to have a competition with only the "favorites" without a chance for surprises from outside that group.

And what the f is up with Egypt that they can't ever qualify??
True, i was commenting on Alens idea of an elitist competition where not all teams are allowed to qualify. I think its a silly idea altogether, but if we were to take only the best teams, we wouldn't allow teams like Ukraine, Croatia and Sweden in, it would be better to have teams like Ghana, USA and Mexico.

Croatia is a fluke team. They beat England at Wembley a few years ago, then lost 4-0 last year at Croatia.
 

Martin

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Dec 31, 2000
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True, i was commenting on Alens idea of an elitist competition where not all teams are allowed to qualify. I think its a silly idea altogether, but if we were to take only the best teams, we wouldn't allow teams like Ukraine, Croatia and Sweden in, it would be better to have teams like Ghana, USA and Mexico.
Better how? Croatia and Sweden have been in semi finals in the past 15 years. What the hell has Ghana or USA ever done?

Croatia is a fluke team. They beat England at Wembley a few years ago, then lost 4-0 last year at Croatia.
Right, that's a good example. :rolleyes: I bet you could find almost the same case for every team at some point.
 

Fred

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Oct 2, 2003
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Better how? Croatia and Sweden have been in semi finals in the past 15 years. What the hell has Ghana or USA ever done?



Right, that's a good example. :rolleyes: I bet you could find almost the same case for every team at some point.
I don't count the Euro's. Thats a laughable tournament, in every Euro's there is at least one shit team in the Semi's. I mean Russia made the semi's last time, come on, Russia.

Europeans have money, good facilities, a lot of immigrants and decades and decades to build their leagues, National teams etc.

We never lost 4:0 to England :stuckup:

European teams can at least make a great generation from time to time. As can the South Americans. The others- NEVER!

Give them time, most of them are relatively new to football.
 

Alen

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Apr 2, 2007
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Which is better, reaching the semi's once and then either going out of the first round or not qualifying at all for the rest of the times, or reaching the quarters, the second round consistently. I think the latter is better, because the former is more of a fluke.
The latter.

Now who's done it from the teams out of Europe and South America?
 

Fred

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Oct 2, 2003
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The latter.

Now who's done it from the teams out of Europe and South America?

I don't agree that the latter is better. Also, its like i said, you guys have the advantage of time, most of the other teams are either new to football, or have poor football federations, poor leagues, no money, no facilities etc.

Look at the African players who grow up in Europe and use European facilities and benefit from all the spoiling European players get. Look at Zidane, Desailly, Eto'o, Drogba, Weah etc. They are all better than any Croatian, Swedish or Bulgarian player out there.

Oh and South Americans are genuinely good at football. I have no objections there.
 

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