[WC] World Cup 2010 - General Talk Thread (32 Viewers)

[Seven]

Indeed. At the most 3.

I forgot. Tommasi was past the goalie and in front of an open goal when the ref whistled, but theoretically a miracle could have happened right? Only he did show his technical ability to slide it in seconds later, so I really really really think it would have been a goal.

 

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[Seven]

They both hold eachother's shirts and suddenly Inzaghi comes ahead of the defender (while holding his shirt) and the defender falls. This way Inzaghi comes in front of Pletikosa, blocks his view and the keeper doesn't save the ball.

I don't know what there is to complain about this. How can you say that it was the defender who made the foul?

How can you say it was Inzaghi?

And that still leaves four goals and a myriad of bad calls in the Korea game alone. I think Italy had every right to complain and the fact that that right was taken from them based on the fact that they're Italian will always bother me.

 

[KB824]

I'm not an Italian and I don't feel insulted by Andy's or Burke's racial abuse, but it's getting tiresome how some teams, like the US or Belgium, are allowed to complain and others are not, like Italy and Spain.

I can understand that. But it was 8 years ago. I just don't see what the point is in arguing about it. Its obvious that the quality of officiating has not gotten any better, and until they put in instant replay for certain situations, then its something that we have todeal with.

I'm just reading all of this banter and its as if each side is trying to convicne the other. Its 8 years gone now. If you were set in your beliefs back then, there's little chance anyone is going to change their mind.

 

[Red]

Cooler heads must prevail here

I fear you are wasting your breath.

Italy v Korea is, apparently, still a fascinating subject.

 

[Dostoevsky]

Germany beat Ghana 1-0, you need to beat Australia with four goals to be equal to the Germans. If Germany beat Ghana with any other result you have to beat Australia with even more goals to finish first in the group. If you get a draw in the other game, depends on the result, you are out/equal to Ghana/qualify as the second team.

Germany-Ghana ends in a draw. You will top the group with a win. You are second with any other result.

Ghana beat Germany, you will qualify with a draw and that's the maximum you can get.

Alen?

Thanks

 

[king Ale]

Of course nobody will want to mention the Grosso dive. He's Italian and they won the World Cup after it.

And no, it's not everyone who feels that way, only fans of those said nations. The refereeing was poor, but it wasn't some big conspiracy. Half of those calls against Italy that folks keep mentioning are continuously misinterpreted by fans, like the supposed penalty on Totti, or the elbows during aerial challenges. They weren't penalties and they all were not red cards.

Whatever the case, even if Italy wins the World Cup this year, in 2014, and in 2018, we will always revisit the 2002 incidents no matter what year it is.

No ref would be banned from refereeing like Moreno was for misinterpreted (by fans) calls Andy.

 

[KB824]

I would much rather talk about the U.S. advancing, and hoping against hope that Italy doesn't embarass themselves like I thought they would at the start of this world cup, and actually doing something worthwhile in this tournament.

Such as flaming out in the next round, assuming they make it.

 

[Seven]

I fear you are wasting your breath.

Italy v Korea is, apparently, still a fascinating subject.

That entire cup is. Spain and Italy had the worst calls, but they were not allowed to complain, because they were no good South European trash. And not only that, but we actually have people here who are okay with refs deciding the outcome of the tournament. Well, excuse me, but I don't believe that's the reason I'm watching the WC.

 

[Azzurri7]

Is it me or Andy never gets tired of the same topic?

 

[Alen]

Germany beat Ghana 1-0, you need to beat Australia with four goals to be equal to the Germans. If Germany beat Ghana with any other result you have to beat Australia with even more goals to finish first in the group. If you get a draw in the other game, depends on the result, you are out/equal to Ghana/qualify as the second team.

Germany-Ghana ends in a draw. You will top the group with a win. You are second with any other result.

Ghana beat Germany, you will qualify with a draw and that's the maximum you can get.

Alen?

I didn't really read it, but you're always right so you must be this time too.

Dule, 2nd place is what you want bro. If you're second you play USA and if you beat USA then it's Uruguay or Korea. That's the best fucking draw you could think of.
Of course, the match against USA and the potential quarter against Korea/Uruguay will be 50-50, but it's still better than being paired with the other teams in the knock-outs.

So, 2nd is the desired spot. In order to be 2nd, you need to win by less than 3 goals and expect Ghana-Germany not to be a draw. That's the most realistic way of getting the 2nd place.

 

[king Ale]

I would much rather talk about the U.S. advancing

and hoping against hope that Italy doesn't embarass themselves like I thought they would at the start of this world cup, and actually doing something worthwhile in this tournament.

 

[Seven]

Elbows during aerial challenges

My god, what a moron. How could you possibly say that that elbow against Del Piero wasn't a red? That wasn't deliberate, but Behrami should be sent off?

My god, have you watched football before, Andy?

 

[KB824]

I fear you are wasting your breath.

Italy v Korea is, apparently, still a fascinating subject.

I just find it weird that I'm one of the few posters in this forum with Italian in their blood, and this has been a dead issue for me for, what, 8 years now??

Stressing out about it will only kill me quicker.

That, and AIDS. I guess AIDS could kill me quicker too.

So, don't stress out about officiating, and don't contract AIDS if you want to live longer.

 

[Seven]

I just find it weird that I'm one of the few posters in this forum with Italian in their blood, and this has been a dead issue for me for, what, 8 years now??

Stressing out about it will only kill me quicker.

That, and AIDS. I guess AIDS could kill me quicker too.

So, don't stress out about officiating, and don't contract AIDS if you want to live longer.

But it's not about 2002 per se. It's about prejudice. And about the fact that the refereeing needs changing.

 

[Dostoevsky]

I didn't really read it, but you're always right so you must be this time too.

Dule, 2nd place is what you want bro. If you're second you play USA and if you beat USA then it's Uruguay or Korea. That's the best fucking draw you could think of.
Of course, the match against USA and the potential quarter against Korea/Uruguay will be 50-50, but it's still better than being paired with the other teams in the knock-outs.

So, 2nd is the desired spot. In order to be 2nd, you need to win by less than 3 goals and expect Ghana-Germany not to be a draw. That's the most realistic way of getting the 2nd place.

:xfinger:

Man, this will be tough tonight. If we go through we could see everything.

 

[Dostoevsky]

Jesus guys...can stop talking about 2002 and Italy? You ramble shit load of pages for nothing.

Andries, skip it already.

 

[Red]

I just find it weird that I'm one of the few posters in this forum with Italian in their blood, and this has been a dead issue for me for, what, 8 years now??

Stressing out about it will only kill me quicker.

That, and AIDS. I guess AIDS could kill me quicker too.

So, don't stress out about officiating, and don't contract AIDS if you want to live longer.

Indeed.

Any fan who has watched football and cared about a team for any length of time will be able to tell tales of when they were 'robbed', but there's no point in dwelling on it.

Not that I'm going to say the Aberdeen fans who sent threats and a dead rat to a ref after a game a few years ago weren't entirely justified in their actions.

 

[Alen]

How can you say it was Inzaghi?

You can't say that it was only Inzaghi since they both make a foul at the same time. But it's Inzaghi who somehow comes ahead of the defender, who falls, so even though you see that both are fouling, you simply go with the logic that the attacker was pulling the shirt harder and this allowed him the advantage he got.
The linesman couldn't really feel the strength of those shirt pullings and he went with the logical answer.
You can watch million replays and you still won't know how strong they were pulling eachother's jerseys.
You see a foul from both sides and in such situations you give advantage to the defender, just like the attacker gets the advantage when an offside call is a very close one.

 

[king Ale]

Ghana and Serbia winning their games would suit Serbians perfectly

 

[Gian]

What is up with Algerian players and blond up their hairs. I mean like, it looks like some strange Super Sayjin shit to me.