[WC] World Cup 2010 - General Talk Thread (48 Viewers)

Fred

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Oct 2, 2003
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It won the game for them.


Btw, watching Cristiano Ronaldo and Messi, the two best players of the world at the moment, you'd realize how much players like Zizou and Ronaldo are missed.
See the replay again, i don't blame the linesman for not seeing it, he was just fractionally offside.

Zidane is a real legend, this WC shows why Messi still doesn't hold a candle to Zidane :agree:
 

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Zé Tahir

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Dec 10, 2004
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By reputation, whether it actually happens or not, Portugal in recent years have been a level above anyone.
Italy has had that reputation since before I was born :shifty:

But he got stuffed by that asshat Fábio Coentrão. :p
He's badass. One of the few creating shit out there. Such a shame that Portugal are out. Goalkeeper was solid, the defense was nearly water tight, midfield was doing its job for the most part but there was no one to deliver the balls forward except on counter attacks. Portugal needs a couple of goleadors desperately.


My wishes:
Ghana to continue upsetting, Uruguay to chase former glory, Argentina to beat Brazil for the trophy.
 

GordoDeCentral

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Apr 14, 2005
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interesting post i came across

No-one’s really debated this properly, but this is what you get when you fiddle with the meaning of the offside rule.
In the olden days, Tevez would have been flagged off probably before Messi even hit the ball forward. Linesmen would have been conditioned to it, seeing one guy so far ahead of the defenders, and there would have been no debate. Now, in a high pressure situation, linesman possibly sees Tevez in such a position, but he supposedly isn’t interfering with play. The linesman wants the game to continue, as he reckons Messi is bypassing Tev and shooting anyway, so it isn’t really an issue. Yet. As soon as Tev touches the ball he becomes 'active’, and in the confusion, the linesman really can’t be sure exactly where Tevez was a few seconds ago when Messi kicked the ball. So he takes a guess, giving the benefit of the doubt to the attacker, as the rule encourages. The rule was changed to encourage more goals, but it’s a wonder it hasn’t created even more illegal goals like this.

Wasn’t there a goal in the Merseyside cup final where Tony Cottee actually ran back into Liverpool’s goal to avoid being offside, whether Stuart McCall’s shot hit him or not? Those were the good old days, you knew where you were. As Bill Shankly said, 'if you’re not interfering with play, what are you doing on the bloomin’ pitch?’ Nowadays, free kick routines with one attacker virtually standing on the keeper’s toes confuse the hell out of me.
 

Lion

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Jan 24, 2007
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anhone else feel the lack of a wide man hurt spain?

Villa and Ramos were doing fine out wide, but Torres was being dragged out too wide to be effective.

i'mt not sure why you need Xabi, Xavi and Iniesta in the middile when 2 of them could have been enough.

I think Navas or Silva could have helped spain kill this game a bit earlier.
 

Ahmed

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Sep 3, 2006
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they miss Senna, have to play Xabi and Busquets because of his absence...if he was there then Silva/Navas would play ahead of both and they would have better width.
 

Lion

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Jan 24, 2007
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i don't know they did fine in their second game when navas was playing instead of Iniesta.

I felt that Iniesta despite playing well was not really needed.
 

Bozi

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Oct 18, 2005
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del bosque aparantly feels that some of his players are not 100% fit so he is overloading the midfield area so they ahve less work to do
 

swag

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He's badass. One of the few creating shit out there. Such a shame that Portugal are out. Goalkeeper was solid, the defense was nearly water tight, midfield was doing its job for the most part but there was no one to deliver the balls forward except on counter attacks. Portugal needs a couple of goleadors desperately.
They had no offensive answer other than a counterattack opportunities in a tight 0-0 match.

But they've always lacked a creative striker threat. You can argue how beautiful Spain was, but it wasn't for Villa latching on to some great passes and showing his individual brilliance, we might have been at penalties. Spain needed Villa more than anything tonight.

Portugal needs another Eusebio.

If Villa continues like this he will be named the best player in the world.

Truly great. Spain will struggle if he can't play.
Easily the difference-maker for Spain in this tournament. Which isn't to dismiss Xavi and Iniesta, etc. But with just them and without Villa, they'd be kinda hosed.

anhone else feel the lack of a wide man hurt spain?

Villa and Ramos were doing fine out wide, but Torres was being dragged out too wide to be effective.
I thought so too. Villa or Torres as wide men? They could only run at the goal rather than deliver any real crosses. Ramos was the best Spain had at that.
 

Zé Tahir

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They had no offensive answer other than a counterattack opportunities in a tight 0-0 match.

But they've always lacked a creative striker threat. You can argue how beautiful Spain was, but it wasn't for Villa latching on to some great passes and showing his individual brilliance, we might have been at penalties. Spain needed Villa more than anything tonight.

Portugal needs another Eusebio.
Amen.

That'll go into my fb status :agree:
 

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