[WC] World Cup 2010 - General Talk Thread (30 Viewers)

Bjerknes

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Mar 16, 2004
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Here;s the problem though. You can be successful at that size in baseball, too, and we all know where the roots of the country are in regards to sports culture.

The ONE sport, like soccer, where size doesn't really matter, also happens to be in the same country where the one sport that has been a tradition for almost 150 years shares that same idealogy
Baseball is on the wane, though. It isn't my pastime, and it is not the pastime of all youngsters in this country. I say we ban this "pastime" bullshit once and for all because there is no reason why it should be held in that regard. Far more people enjoy American football than than baseball as proven by viewer statistics, yet this dumb sport still maintains its "pastime" status.

Well, I guess in a sense it works out. People live in the past. And with the old farts dying who still watch this sport, it will be a thing of the past some day.
 

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Oct 11, 2005
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It might not. But never is a harsh word. Much of the time when folks say "never" they're proven wrong in the end.
The furthest along soccer will get in the US is to the level of hockey. There isn't the level of infrastructure or financial interest as there is for other sports in the US. In Europe players start training at top clubs at 14 while in the US players are lucky to be on an ODP team at that age and usually don't get the opportunity to go overseas until their 20s. Couple that with the ridiculous transfer policy of the MLS and our players are at a huge disadvantage even before stepping on the field.

Granted that doesn't mean that things won't get better. The MLS needs to partner with the USF to develop a program for singling out young talent and getting them on the road to becoming professional. In addition, the MLS needs to revamp their transfer policy to give American players more control over their careers. And the ability to grow as a player by moving to more competitive leagues.

It would be great if soccer overtook football, baseball or basketball as a sport in our country, but it doesn't seem a realistic possibility. As for people who say "never" being proven wrong, I hope you're right.
 

Alen

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Apr 2, 2007
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Kind of what Gary Leneker said when he descirebed football as a 11 vs 11 then Germany wins.
Yeah, and also the fact that they were playing modern football with excellent movement and quick passing :D

Something that neither the English football school nor an old-fashioned Capello can cope with.

Capello was awful. The team he had though was over-rated. At least the old guy can be proud that he was the only Italian who made the knock-outs, but it doesn't say much because he, as well as his Italian colleagues, have a lot to change and a lot to learn to get closer to reality and what's the winning football at the moment.
 

Gabriel

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May 23, 2010
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Hart

Warnock - Dawson - Jagielka - Richards

Johnson - Jenas - Carrick - Lennon

Walcott - Cole


Off the top of my head, but there you go.

Hart

Warnock - Dawson - King - Richards


Lennon - Carrick - Gerrard - Joe Cole


Walcott - Rooney


there ya go, 3 big names and a pretty solid team. arguably much better than the actual england nt
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
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The furthest along soccer will get in the US is to the level of hockey. There isn't the level of infrastructure or financial interest as there is for other sports in the US. In Europe players start training at top clubs at 14 while in the US players are lucky to be on an ODP team at that age and usually don't get the opportunity to go overseas until their 20s. Couple that with the ridiculous transfer policy of the MLS and our players are at a huge disadvantage even before stepping on the field.

Granted that doesn't mean that things won't get better. The MLS needs to partner with the USF to develop a program for singling out young talent and getting them on the road to becoming professional. In addition, the MLS needs to revamp their transfer policy to give American players more control over their careers. And the ability to grow as a player by moving to more competitive leagues.

It would be great if soccer overtook football, baseball or basketball as a sport in our country, but it doesn't seem a realistic possibility. As for people who say "never" being proven wrong, I hope you're right.
It just depends on how much this new generation of youngsters keeps the sport close to them after they stop playing it. That's why progression in the World Cup is so important... even if they don't play for real anymore, they will still wait in excitement for each and every match. Just like we do.

9/11, the crash of 1987, the Great Depression, the current housing collapse, Obama's presidency, the US beating Portugal in 2002, the second Great Depression occurring now, and Hurricane Katrina all have one thing in common. And I bet you know what that is.
 
Apr 15, 2006
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It just depends on how much this new generation of youngsters keeps the sport close to them after they stop playing it. That's why progression in the World Cup is so important... even if they don't play for real anymore, they will still wait in excitement for each and every match. Just like we do.

9/11, the crash of 1987, the Great Depression, the current housing collapse, Obama's presidency, the US beating Portugal in 2002, the second Great Depression occurring now, and Hurricane Katrina all have one thing in common. And I bet you know what that is.
America?
 

swag

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Sep 23, 2003
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9/11, the crash of 1987, the Great Depression, the current housing collapse, Obama's presidency, the US beating Portugal in 2002, the second Great Depression occurring now, and Hurricane Katrina all have one thing in common. And I bet you know what that is.
Luis Figo?
 

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