[WC] World Cup 2010 - General Talk Thread (20 Viewers)

[Tommy]

so france and uruguay have gone through from group A

IMO Mexico, Uruguay.
Cavani sucked. The margin couldve been better.

 

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[Ford Prefect]

forlans first goal is the second best i've seen this tourny, second to maicons.

 

[Red]

forlans first goal is the second best i've seen this tourny, second to maicons.

Forlan's was deflected and Maicon's was a fluke.

 

[swag]

The goalie couldn't be bothered to reach up an arm, though.

 

[Ford Prefect]

Forlan's was deflected and Maicon's was a fluke.

intention doesn't make a good goal not a good goal.

 

[Alen]

Who said that the refs favor the hosts in world cups?

Usa in 1994? Favored? Nope
France in 1998? They got a red card in the semis.
Japan in 2002? It was so easy to favor them. Turkey in the 1/8 finals and Senegal in the 1/4 finals. It was so easy to rob "small" teams like Turkey and then Senegal. But nope. Japan loses to Turkey.
Germany in 2006? Nicht.
South Africa in 2010? Doesn't look like it. Penalty and red card at 0:1.

Only the team that eliminates the Azzurri was favored because "they were the hosts".

2002 was as fair as any other world cup. The Koreans deserved their success.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

Who said that the refs favor the hosts in world cups?

Usa in 1994? Favored? Nope
France in 1998? They got a red card in the semis.
Japan in 2002? It was so easy to favor them. Turkey in the 1/8 finals and Senegal in the 1/4 finals. It was so easy to rob "small" teams like Turkey and then Senegal. But nope. Japan loses to Turkey.
Germany in 2006? Nicht.
South Africa in 2010? Doesn't look like it. Penalty and red card at 0:1.

Only the team that eliminates the Azzurri was favored because "they were the hosts".

2002 was as fair as any other world cup. The Koreans deserved their success.

no they didnt quit instigating

 

[Alen]

no they didnt quit instigating

Well, maybe they didn't quite deserve it with their performances, but it had nothing to do with ref help, imho.

 

[Red]

intention doesn't make a good goal not a good goal.

Of course it does.

A good goal is about skill.

The skill element is removed if the goal is a fluke.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

Well, maybe they didn't quite deserve it with their performances, but it had nothing to do with ref help, imho.

well the infamous ref from that italy-korea game never reffed an international game after that, but you do have a point in the azzurri and their fans complaining more than others but you didnt need football to know that

 

[Alen]

no they didnt quit instigating

Also, I think we should hear what the neutrals have to say about this. We know the opinion of the involved parties. Grey on one side and the Azzurri fans on the other side.
I would like to hear the opinion of those who are indifferent about the Azzurri. JCK, Andy, Burke and the likes.

 

[Ford Prefect]

Of course it does.

A good goal is about skill.

The skill element is removed if the goal is a fluke.

the goals to watch were good goals, if i were analysing how good the player is from the goal then that stuff comes into play, im talking purely aesthetics.

 

[v1rtu4l]

You have to possess the ball to score it, do you not?

and that is the mistake in the equation ...

its not "have the ball" equals "can score"...

it is more "have the ball in a dangerous position (penalty box)" equals "can score" and if you fail to do this ... (look at barca or spain today) then your possession will not give you anything.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

Also, I think we should hear what the neutrals have to say about this. We know the opinion of the involved parties. Grey on one side and the Azzurri fans on the other side.
I would like to here the opinion of those who are indifferent about the Azzurri. JCK, Andy, Burke and the likes.

one can be a fan and still be objective, especially if the instances were as blatant as the ones in that game

 

[JCK]

I agree and the conspiracies that the Azzurri fans and fanboys come up with are really boring. How can they explain their exit in 1990?

 

[Red]

I agree and the conspiracies that the Azzurri fans and fanboys come up with are really boring. How can they explain their exit in 1990?

Maradona, through his contacts in the Naples mafia, had the game fixed.

 

[Alen]

I agree and the conspiracies that the Azzurri fans and fanboys come up with are really boring. How can they explain their exit in 1990?

You didn't need to mention 1990 dammit

I deliberately didn't mention it because it didn't go well with my theory that the hosts aren't favored by the refs.

 

[king Ale]

forlans first goal is the second best i've seen this tourny, second to maicons.

The first goal of tournament and also Gerrard's goal were the best ones so far imo.

 

[JuveJay]

Who said that the refs favor the hosts in world cups?

Usa in 1994? Favored? Nope
France in 1998? They got a red card in the semis.
Japan in 2002? It was so easy to favor them. Turkey in the 1/8 finals and Senegal in the 1/4 finals. It was so easy to rob "small" teams like Turkey and then Senegal. But nope. Japan loses to Turkey.
Germany in 2006? Nicht.
South Africa in 2010? Doesn't look like it. Penalty and red card at 0:1.

Only the team that eliminates the Azzurri was favored because "they were the hosts".

2002 was as fair as any other world cup. The Koreans deserved their success.

LOL. Basically the host thing can only go so far, but I don't think it is a conscious attempt. As if FIFA would take such cynical money making and interest gaining attempts, fairytail stories, if only. I'm being sarcastic, or maybe I'm not.

France got a red card though, come on They also won the tournament for the first time ever. But away from the silliness, oh, no, it still is silly.

 

[JuveJay]

I agree and the conspiracies that the Azzurri fans and fanboys come up with are really boring. How can they explain their exit in 1990?

The better team lost, silly to play it in Naples though, don't you think?