Virginia Tech Murders (9 Viewers)

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,307
This thread was never strictly about "mourning," as I know very well that many citizens across the globe couldn't really give a rat's ass. Such a group of people doesn't include Seven, who has already admitted that he was just itching for such an event to happen. Digusting really, using every opportunity to say "hey, America got what they had coming."

In reality this thread was started because the Virginia Tech massacre was breaking news that could be found on channels from Stockholm to Seoul... for the reason being it is absurd that such heartless rage could be carried out in classrooms. Many members of this forum are students, especially students at different universities, so it could potentially hit home for them. Personally, I have a few friends at Virginia Tech myself, so I watched this matter closely.

But whether this horrible attack against students took place on US soil or some other continent across the globe, it doesn't take away nor add to the importance of the event. Lives are lives wherever they are, and hundreds killed in Iraq during one single day should be noted as well. So no... it's not just about mourning, but some level of respectable discussion should be kept in place while discussing such a horrible tragedy.

If I were to infiltrate a thread such as the Beslan school massacre and stated "you know, this is what the Russians get for blasting away Chechens. And by the way, people die by the thousands every single day, so this is inconsequential," I would deemed as an arrogant, classless American who doesn't care about the deaths of innocent people. And rightfully so. But as soon as the tide swings, we cannot even start a peaceful thread regarding our own loss of students. Incredibly typical.
No, not true. If that were the case more attention should have gone to world hunger last week than to Virginia Tech. You know very well that 10 Americans are worth more than 10 Ethiopians in this world. As for your argument about the Russians. Well, it's true isn't it?

I see you've reverted to your propagandistic ways. "Seven who has already admitted", boy, you'd not make a very good lawyer. I wasn't itching for an event like that, I was just waiting for it to happen. All the elements were there, it just had to give a lethal mix at some point.

Besides, you have absolutely no idea what I'm talking about anyway. You truly are a dumbfuck American. Reasoning with you is just useless. Perhaps it's the patriotism they pour down your throat ever since you were born.
 

Durden

Senior Member
May 11, 2006
1,601
No, not true. If that were the case more attention should have gone to world hunger last week than to Virginia Tech. You know very well that 10 Americans are worth more than 10 Ethiopians in this world. As for your argument about the Russians. Well, it's true isn't it?

I see you've reverted to your propagandistic ways. "Seven who has already admitted", boy, you'd not make a very good lawyer. I wasn't itching for an event like that, I was just waiting for it to happen. All the elements were there, it just had to give a lethal mix at some point.

Besides, you have absolutely no idea what I'm talking about anyway. You truly are a dumbfuck American. Reasoning with you is just useless. Perhaps it's the patriotism they pour down your throat ever since you were born.
This is because of the focus of the media, they sell newspapers and the fact that people die of hunger is old news. Not trying to defend the media, my point is that this does not mean that people in genneral don't care about world hunger. I think it's sad when a psycho shots up his fellow students, just like I think its sad when a child dies of hunger in Africa. But I don't value one over the other. I just think it's sad.
 

Azzurri7

Pinturicchio
Moderator
Dec 16, 2003
72,692
I hate it how I have to explain everything several times to you. As of now I will stop doing so and just put you on my ignore list.
I didn't ask you to repeat anything, I never asked you a question. I just think this post is the most ignorant, and you proved me that you're nothing but a "show off" who bashes US for nothing but just to pretend you know something.

You pretend to know everything, maybe you're ok in Football, but having to read your posts on some other topics like this one or some political ones, you're still pretty too young for these debates.

Oh, wait a sec, I'm in your ignore list:howler:
 

Jem83

maitre'd at Canal Bar
Nov 7, 2005
22,870
This thread was never strictly about "mourning," as I know very well that many citizens across the globe couldn't really give a rat's ass. Such a group of people doesn't include Seven, who has already admitted that he was just itching for such an event to happen. Digusting really, using every opportunity to say "hey, America got what they had coming."

In reality this thread was started because the Virginia Tech massacre was breaking news that could be found on channels from Stockholm to Seoul... for the reason being it is absurd that such heartless rage could be carried out in classrooms. Many members of this forum are students, especially students at different universities, so it could potentially hit home for them. Personally, I have a few friends at Virginia Tech myself, so I watched this matter closely.

But whether this horrible attack against students took place on US soil or some other continent across the globe, it doesn't take away nor add to the importance of the event. Lives are lives wherever they are, and hundreds killed in Iraq during one single day should be noted as well. So no... it's not just about mourning, but some level of respectable discussion should be kept in place while discussing such a horrible tragedy.

If I were to infiltrate a thread such as the Beslan school massacre and stated "you know, this is what the Russians get for blasting away Chechens. And by the way, people die by the thousands every single day, so this is inconsequential," I would deemed as an arrogant, classless American who doesn't care about the deaths of innocent people. And rightfully so. But as soon as the tide swings, we cannot even start a peaceful thread regarding our own loss of students. Incredibly typical.
Great post, Andy
 
Jan 7, 2004
29,704
I didn't ask you to repeat anything, I never asked you a question. I just think this post is the most ignorant, and you proved me that you're nothing but a "show off" who bashes US for nothing but just to pretend you know something.

You pretend to know everything, maybe you're ok in Football, but having to read your posts on some other topics like this one or some political ones, you're still pretty too young for these debates.

Oh, wait a sec, I'm in your ignore list:howler:

he can read it now ;)
 

Vinman

2013 Prediction Cup Champ
Jul 16, 2002
11,482
That is a really poor joke, Vin.

Sure, anyone can get a gun anywhere, it' just a lot harder in Japan than it is in the USA. Go check the numbers, gun related deaths in the US are insanely high. You've tried your option for years now, how about seeing if the other option does work.

Seriously, what kind of macho are you? "Care to look at my gun, sweety?" Go exercise some more, cause you're obviously not up to this discussion.
it wasnt a joke weasel, its the truth...you are an ignorant fuck !!

dont believe me ?? Ask the majority here

ignorant weasel seven said:
The difference between the two of us is that I will never kill 30 people. And you want to know why? Because I don't live in America.
I rest my case :oops:
 

tanveer_1

Junior Member
Apr 14, 2007
189
it wasnt a joke weasel, its the truth...you are an ignorant fuck !!

dont believe me ?? Ask the majority here



I rest my case :oops:
well he has a point, gun crime is really high in america and looking at the fact that guns are legal makes more reason for them to be made illegal. the fact of the matter is that america has a serious problem with guns
 

The Pado

Filthy Gobbo
Jul 12, 2002
9,939
The "right to bear arms" langauge of the Second Amendment presupposed the need for the citizenry to take up arms against an oppressive government, a colonial master, or an occupying foreign invader. The language is outdated and the need for citizen militias no longer exists.

I would be in favor of striking down that language, and making it illegal for people in th USA to possess firearms. However, I must recognize that cocaine, marijuana, etc. are illegal but everybody seems to have plenty of that despite the laws.
 

Torkel

f(s+1)=3((s +1)-1=3s
Jul 12, 2002
3,537
The "right to bear arms" langauge of the Second Amendment presupposed the need for the citizenry to take up arms against an oppressive government, a colonial master, or an occupying foreign invader. The language is outdated and the need for citizen militias no longer exists.

I would be in favor of striking down that language, and making it illegal for people in th USA to possess firearms. However, I must recognize that cocaine, marijuana, etc. are illegal but everybody seems to have plenty of that despite the laws.
It seems to be going the other way though, I've seen lots of people wanting to have "everyone" carrying a gun, just today I read something about how Tennessee are allowing guns in public buildings and areas. I've also seen a lot of people say: "if just one of those kids at VT had a gun...", like a situation where loads of college kids are walking around with guns is a situation they see nothing wrong with.

I think it's one of the biggest/weirdest cultural differences between the US and Europe. I can't see how it's so essential for everyone to be allowed to walk around with a handgun, while the right to treatment when you're sick, not so much.
 

The Pado

Filthy Gobbo
Jul 12, 2002
9,939
It seems to be going the other way though, I've seen lots of people wanting to have "everyone" carrying a gun, just today I read something about how Tennessee are allowing guns in public buildings and areas. I've also seen a lot of people say: "if just one of those kids at VT had a gun...", like a situation where loads of college kids are walking around with guns is a situation they see nothing wrong with.

I think it's one of the biggest/weirdest cultural differences between the US and Europe. I can't see how it's so essential for everyone to be allowed to walk around with a handgun, while the right to treatment when you're sick, not so much.
It is just incredible to me that some people, a lot of people actually, make that argument about arming everybody to deter shootings. Instead of school shootings caused by psychotic episodes, we'll have shootings based upon "Joe looked at my girlfriend the wrong way".

P.S. Torks, does your sig refer to kidneys, by any chance?
 

Azzurri7

Pinturicchio
Moderator
Dec 16, 2003
72,692
Vinny, any idea what's the big talking about there about NBC showing some footage?? lot of media and press criticized them for showing it.

What was that about?
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,307
it wasnt a joke weasel, its the truth...you are an ignorant fuck !!

dont believe me ?? Ask the majority here



I rest my case :oops:
God, Vin, this is too sad to even react to. I'm a bit confused here. Are you the guy who has English as his native language?
 

Max

Senior Member
Jul 15, 2003
4,828
Vinny, any idea what's the big talking about there about NBC showing some footage?? lot of media and press criticized them for showing it.

What was that about?
The shooter sent some sort of package in the mail to NBC containing some photos of him, as well as a final video where he confesses to the killings and explains why he did them.
 

Azzurri7

Pinturicchio
Moderator
Dec 16, 2003
72,692
God, Vin, this is too sad to even react to. I'm a bit confused here. Are you the guy who has English as his native language?
How childish can this get to? please someone ffs tell this guy his english is perfect and he's pretty too smart for us. maybe this way he'll chill a bit with these kind of posts.
 

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